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Cops, detectives, FBI agents, U.S. soldiers tell Natural News they will not enforce gun confiscation orders
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Cops, FBI agents, Soldiers say they will not enforce gun confiscation orders
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Ragnar Danneskjold
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I will also uphold the Constitution and my oath to it.
Just like they did in New Orleans after Katrina. Cops from California and National Guard from Oklahoma. Entered lady's (Patty Connie) house and threw her down to take her S&W 32.
I wish the National Guard Officer would have seized and arrested thwe California cop. Did not happen. If the order comes down it will be enacted.
I wish the National Guard Officer would have seized and arrested thwe California cop. Did not happen. If the order comes down it will be enacted.
mljdeckard
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Not that simple. Go to youtube and look up Joshua May Katrina. (He was my supply sgt in Iraq.) I have discussed with my commander personally, how orders to confiscate arms are not legal, moral, or ethical, and if we follow them, we will be held accountable.
Phatty
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There's never going to be a sudden call for total confiscation in this country. It's just not practical. The gun grabbers fully realize that total confiscation can only be achieved using a gradual approach.
The same police officers who would emphatically state that they would never enforce a confiscation order will certainly arrest a person during a traffic stop when they find an unregistered short-barreled shotgun in the car. That weapon would then be confiscated. Likewise, over the case of say 50 years, as more and more features/categories of guns become illegal, the police will readily seize and confiscate those weapons as they encounter them. So, no, the police will never have to go door to door and pound on doors looking to seize any guns, but the same result will be achieved by the police over a long period of time.
The same police officers who would emphatically state that they would never enforce a confiscation order will certainly arrest a person during a traffic stop when they find an unregistered short-barreled shotgun in the car. That weapon would then be confiscated. Likewise, over the case of say 50 years, as more and more features/categories of guns become illegal, the police will readily seize and confiscate those weapons as they encounter them. So, no, the police will never have to go door to door and pound on doors looking to seize any guns, but the same result will be achieved by the police over a long period of time.
No house to house unless isolated to make a point
Guns get turned in when laws are made because penalties are made for non-compliance; most Americans are not into breaking laws or want to fight; interferes with making a living.
History of gun bans and how they turned out are part of this worlds history; many thought it could not happen in their country or..maybe it was a good idea at the time.
The road maps are there but this is America; does not mean "they" will/would not try if you read some of the comments from different news sources.
I would have never thought a citizen could disappear under NDAA but from what I have read that option is there.
So no one has a Crystal Ball that works but we do have a constitution;
if I did have a crystal ball I would use it to win the lottery and buy my own kingdom.
We would all be happy in the Kingdom of Sky because I would say so.
Actually my wife might have other plans? Not easy being a kingdom kinda guy.....Think the founders realized that; thus the Constitution and no royalist or kings running things around here..
Guns get turned in when laws are made because penalties are made for non-compliance; most Americans are not into breaking laws or want to fight; interferes with making a living.
History of gun bans and how they turned out are part of this worlds history; many thought it could not happen in their country or..maybe it was a good idea at the time.
The road maps are there but this is America; does not mean "they" will/would not try if you read some of the comments from different news sources.
I would have never thought a citizen could disappear under NDAA but from what I have read that option is there.
So no one has a Crystal Ball that works but we do have a constitution;
if I did have a crystal ball I would use it to win the lottery and buy my own kingdom.
We would all be happy in the Kingdom of Sky because I would say so.
Actually my wife might have other plans? Not easy being a kingdom kinda guy.....Think the founders realized that; thus the Constitution and no royalist or kings running things around here..
Certaindeaf
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Talk is cheap. Guido always assures you before going for a "ride" to lunch.
AlexanderA
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This is totally naive. It's not going to go down that way. Give the antigunners credit for at least some smarts. They're not going to go busting into people's homes to seize weapons. They're just going to make it very, very painful (in economic and other senses) to keep them.
floydster
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This thread is on the moon!!!!
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Cosmoline
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They were all lost in a mass boating accident! It was horrorific. All those guns! Oh well.
Al Thompson
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Glub, glub, glub. 
First total bans are not even possible.
Bans in general are unlikely if gun rights supporters fight politically, we have one of the largest pro-gun uspwellings in decades.
They only win if the media is successful at convincing people something is all but inevitable and so they give up or feel ashamed to speak out.
Secondly they never go door to door in nations with bans. They have a turn in order, with penalties for non compliance. They typically also gets registration in place some time before such an order also with non compliance penalties, that way they know who has what and is not complying with a later turn in.
Once they ban the guns most populations have complied when the law is turn them in or get 10 years in prison for the gun we know you have and are on file as the owner of.
Then they focus thier efforts on the small percentage that did not volunatrily turn them in. Which takes far fewer resources.
From that point on anyone found with prohibited items also faces tough penalties, whether they defended thier home from an home invader or tried to take it to a range or use it in the wilderness and got caught. So those guns still possessed are no longer that useful for typical civilian uses, they have to stay stashed away someplace safe.
We are still at least a step away from that even being possible if we didn't have the Constitution. You have to close the 'gun show loophole' to even have half decent registration in place using 4473s to cover the states that don't have thier own registrations already in place. Otherwise who is on paper as having what is unreliable because private sales have them moving around and anyone can say they sold half of those things.
Some places also have passed laws mandating reporting of lost or stolen guns, that also helps confiscation because then nobody can say they 'had a boating accident' or otherwise don't have them anymore because then they are admiting to the crime of not reporting, and if they try to report losing everything before a ban it is an obvious lie that probably meets probable cause.
So there is a few antigun steps that only a few states have in place to make confiscation even feasible.
Bans in general are unlikely if gun rights supporters fight politically, we have one of the largest pro-gun uspwellings in decades.
They only win if the media is successful at convincing people something is all but inevitable and so they give up or feel ashamed to speak out.
Secondly they never go door to door in nations with bans. They have a turn in order, with penalties for non compliance. They typically also gets registration in place some time before such an order also with non compliance penalties, that way they know who has what and is not complying with a later turn in.
Once they ban the guns most populations have complied when the law is turn them in or get 10 years in prison for the gun we know you have and are on file as the owner of.
Then they focus thier efforts on the small percentage that did not volunatrily turn them in. Which takes far fewer resources.
From that point on anyone found with prohibited items also faces tough penalties, whether they defended thier home from an home invader or tried to take it to a range or use it in the wilderness and got caught. So those guns still possessed are no longer that useful for typical civilian uses, they have to stay stashed away someplace safe.
We are still at least a step away from that even being possible if we didn't have the Constitution. You have to close the 'gun show loophole' to even have half decent registration in place using 4473s to cover the states that don't have thier own registrations already in place. Otherwise who is on paper as having what is unreliable because private sales have them moving around and anyone can say they sold half of those things.
Some places also have passed laws mandating reporting of lost or stolen guns, that also helps confiscation because then nobody can say they 'had a boating accident' or otherwise don't have them anymore because then they are admiting to the crime of not reporting, and if they try to report losing everything before a ban it is an obvious lie that probably meets probable cause.
So there is a few antigun steps that only a few states have in place to make confiscation even feasible.
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