Couldn't happen at a worse time: Teacher fired shot, became barricaded inside Dalton High School

[Aim1]

As stated above, couldn't happen at a worse time.


From another article:

“My favorite teacher at Dalton high school just blockaded his door and proceeded to shoot,” wrote @_omg_chondi_omg in a tweet aimed at the National Rifle Association. “We had to run out the back of the school in the rain. Students were being trampled and screaming. I dare you to tell us arming teachers will make us safe.”




http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dal...lice-responding-to-shots-fired-call/708623182

Teacher fired shot, became barricaded inside Dalton High School, police say

Updated: Feb 28, 2018 - 3:09 PM

DALTON, Ga. - Police say a teacher is in custody after he fired a shot inside a classroom at Dalton High School.

 

[fjblair]

I doubt this will move the needle either way.

 

[somethingbenign]

This is terrible timing but in response to the tweet I would say even airbags are capable of causing more damage in certain situations. No safety system is going to prevent 100% of poor outcomes. Give me some time and maybe I could come up with something better.

 

[George P]

Wanna bet that "twit" Tweets or texts while driving?

If no guns until 21, no DL and cell phones until then, and all cell phones must be registered with constant surveillance of all social media remarks.

 

[damyankee425]

how many here think this is a very horrid way for the left to get what they want.I just think something is very fishy here the timing and all. you hear about covert missions and stuff certain agencies cause civic unrest and terror. just thinking out loud that's all

 

[Ignition Override]

What timing. Wow. Wouldn't school districts require a psychological evaluation on any New, future plan to allow teachers to be armed within a given district?

Maybe this focuses the need for extremely limited access (maybe the Israeli method) and no exceptions around metal detectors, even for staff.
But couldn't somebody barely loosen a classroom window or door just before they leave the bldg. then drop a small dark bag into a corner, after sunset?

The challenges, even beyond the legal and financial, appear to be huge. Imagine two or three govt. entities would be trying to coordinate this.....it would be much easier to learn to read Russian Cyrillic words from scratch, and even basic grammar. No pun intended, just emphasizing the challenges.

But let's remember that No guns are needed if kids can be cornered: that psycho arrested yesterday at a CA schoolyard had a knife or axe. Will all schoolyards require a wall similar to the old Berlin Wall? Fedex put one up on a limited stretch of Memphis Airport years ago by Airways Blvd., worried about snipers aiming at some parked aircraft.

 

[George P]

Still sayin' the best thing is to dismantle the public school system in its entirety..........There are much better alternatives - and they're all safer. Now, the teachers' union and all of the overpaid admin folks would complain - until some of the smart ones realized they could get in on the ground floor and make a lot of money......

 

[ponchh]

how many here think this is a very horrid way for the left to get what they want.I just think something is very fishy here the timing and all. you hear about covert missions and stuff certain agencies cause civic unrest and terror. just thinking out loud that's all

A SNOWFLAKE KAMIKAZE
Who would have ever thought

 

[G'dale Mike]

Every time we are close to a 2nd amendment victory, there is a high visibility shooting, or in this case, when presented with an alternative to firearm confiscation to protect school children, a teacher goes off the rails. Coincidence?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

It sounds like the police took the correct actions unlike in Florida.
The teacher is an idiot. He may never teach again. Good.
If they want to arm teachers they will have to have a plan to evaluate them before doing so.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

It sounds like the police took the correct actions unlike in Florida.
The teacher is an idiot. He may never teach again. Good.
If they want to arm teachers they will have to have a plan to evaluate them before doing so.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

It sounds like the police took the correct actions unlike in Florida.
The teacher is an idiot. He may never teach again. Good.
If the want to arm teachers they will have to have a plan to evaluate them before doing so.

Gunny

The discussion shouldn’t be on “arming teachers” but rather letting faculty and staff who have conceal carry permits the option to carry on campus if they choose.

In my case I would have. I know of a few other faculty and staff members who would have been carrying when my class was shot up. In that case it wouldn’t have happened as the gunman said he surrendered befor he was shot as he was afraid of getting killed.

I suspect the kid in Florida was like the one that shot up my class. Brave with a gun against unarmed people but a coward against armed people.

 

[ScrapMetalSlug]

Shouldn’t teachers be evaluated before being allowed to teach and be around kids? An unstable teacher should not be teaching kids, regardless of anything else. If we cannot trust the teachers, then what? You never even get to the debate about the ability to defend or carry concealed.

Just remove the designation for gun free zones. Give people the freedom to decide to carry or not. Gun free zones do not work, and penalize the law abiding only.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Gunny

The discussion shouldn’t be on “arming teachers” but rather letting faculty and staff who have conceal carry permits the option to carry on campus if they choose.

In my case I would have. I know of a few other faculty and staff members who would have been carrying when my class was shot up. In that case it wouldn’t have happened as the gunman said he surrendered befor he was shot as he was afraid of getting killed.

I suspect the kid in Florida was like the one that shot up my class. Brave with a gun against unarmed people but a coward against armed people.

I agree that they could start the selection with those that have conceal carry permits, but some training and selection would also be needed.
I have seen many that have gotten a conceal carry permits that I wouldn’t trust to watch my dog.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

How many school shootings did we have before we had Gun Free Zones at schools.
Someone was so worried about the safety of our children that they created these areas where law abiding citizens will not bring guns.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but 10 out of 10 law abiding citizens don’t shoot school kids.
But now that we have thes Gun Free Zones, schools have become a hunting ground for the deranged.

In most cases when an active shooter is going after unarmed people, it in an area where guns are not allowed.
Most often this is the first time that they ever had the feeling of power. Once they are encountered with force, three things will happen.
#1 They will kill them selves .
#2 They will give up.
#3 They will fight, because they want to die.

 

[George P]

Teachers are evaluated, fingerprinted, and background checked before being let into a classroom

 

[WestKentucky]

This is one of two things, a guy on edge was pushed over the edge by the current hysteria, or he is an idealistic "end justifies the means" kind of snowflake just doing what he can to push an agenda. Either way it's really a sad day when a person entrusted to take care of the younguns endangers them, scares them, and causes some emotional trauma to them.

 

[MidRoad]

Teachers are evaluated, fingerprinted, and background checked before being let into a classroom

That evaluations is pre-teaching. A few years dealing with a bunch of wise @** teenagers is enough to drive any once "normal" person insane ...especially these days.

 

[George P]

I agree, which is why when I taught for a few years I loved first graders................those kids want to be there..........

 

[Bill50]

I briefly tutored kids in 2 states. One state had the administrators fingerprint me and send it to the state police. The other state had local police fingerprint me and sent the fingerprints to the FBI.

A NICS check is much less extensive then what teachers have to go through. I never met anyone that would become a teacher and then go intentionally discharge a firearm in a school.

This is a once in a century incident. I got the impression that most teachers went to college for useless degrees and were waiting to retire and collect their pension.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I know some teachers that are gun guys. I know some that are drunks. But I know more that are liberals.

 

[ontarget]

It had to be a set up to derail getting rid of gun free zones and allowing teachers to be armed.
Sorry folks, I don't believe anything I hear and very little of what I see anymore.
Seem that no matter what happens these days that there ends up being a connection to someone's agenda even if its indirect.
To many, the ends justify the means and they don't care about the consequences.

 

[CapnMac]

Well, this is "balanced," one supposes, by the SRO in CO (I think) who stopped a shooter in the last few days..

 

[barnbwt]

Not really, it sounds like this was likely an aborted suicide. Which, I suppose, is better than a non-aborted suicide, but still has likely next to nothing to do with screened/trained/board-approved teachers legally carrying concealed to defend their students. This was just another armed nutjob who waltzed into a 'secure' disarmed facility intent on doing harm to themselves and/or others. And after giving ample warning ahead of time, again, apparently.

And allegedly there were vaguely anti-gun postings immediately after the Florida shooting on their social media, so...

AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, GUN- CC1318PREWA#47905NO BOND
TERRORISTIC THREATS AND ACTS- CC1386PREWA#47905NO BOND
CARRYING WEAPON IN SCHOOL SAFETY ZONES NON LICENSE- CC5296PREWA#47905NO BOND
RECKLESS CONDUCT- CC5365PREWA#47905NO BOND
DISRUPTING PUBLIC SCHOOLPREWA#47905NO BOND
POSSESS FIREARM / KNIFE DURING COMMISSION OF FELONY- CC5254PREWA#47905NO BOND
Total Bond Amount:NO BOND

 

[FL-NC]

This teacher is just another school shooter.