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Crazy crackhead video

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Tall Man, Oct 14, 2004.

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  1. Tall Man

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    Achtung, armchair warriors.

    What follows is a link to a potentially real event. No need to speculate on what might have occurred, as you would with a news article. You will see what really occurred.

    How would you have reacted?

    http://members.shaw.ca/fivelitermustang/holdinitdown.wmv

    Be advised: pervasive foul language throughout.

    TM

    P.S. - I did a search, and did not find this link previously posted in THR. My apologies if it was.
     
  2. Sisco

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    Lacking CCW, I would've disabled him using the car itself.
     
  3. hillbilly

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    Part of me says this looks very, very staged.

    Why would he have a crowbar or a tire tool sitting there handy?

    Why would someone be sitting in a car, very near the tire tool?

    Why would there just happen to be a cameraman right there with the tire tool and the person in the car?

    What movie is this part of?

    hillbilly
     
  4. Ktulu

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    I would probably drive away if I could. I would not have any problems using the sidewalk or whatever it took to get out of there, even ramming other cars. I can see a prosecutor asking why I shot this guy 5 times when I could have simply driven away. If I couldn't get away, I would shoot the guy until he stopped being a threat.

    BTW: This could never happen to me, as I would not be caught dead in a PT Loser.
     
  5. LiquidTension

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    I agree, looks staged.

    If it were real, my 1911 would definitely have been drawn. If he broke a window that gave him access to my person with that tire iron, there'd be one less "banger" in the world. In any event, I wouldn't have let him out of my sight until the police arrived, and I'd try to get possession of the tape before the cops got there.
     
  6. 45 Carry

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    Kinda sounds like my wanna be stepson. How come people that talk like that keep asking "You know what I'm saying?" Are they ranting so that it's incomprehensible even to themself?
     
  7. OF

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    Lets see: as he approached, my Springfield would be centering its front post on his chest. At the point that he hit the car with the iron, I would have commenced testing the intermediate glass barrier penetration performance of RA45TP. Repeatedly.

    - Gabe
     
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  8. OF

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    Sorry to hear that, knowwhatI'msayin'? ;)

    Shoot, shovel and shut up. Some days, I just plain long for the mob to return.

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  9. Tall Man

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    Hillbilly - I concur that this event could have been staged. I don't know if it was, and I'm not aware if that particular video file is part of a larger file.

    My educated guess here is that if the event is authentic, then perhaps a sociologist (or sociology student) was performing field research.

    While I'm no fan of those garish PT Cruisers, I still cringed when the Diversity lit into it with that crowbar.

    TM
     
  10. Warbow

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    I think it's real.

    It looks like something from BumFights (warning: very stupid site). These idiots go around finding stupid street people who do lots of stupid stuff, such as this, and then put all of their footage together and sell it.
     
  11. OF

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    LOL! :D

    - Gabe
     
  12. Warbow

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    Also, would that have been a "good shoot?" It definitely would have put me in fear of sustaining grave bodily injury, but would the state see it that way? (I'm talking about reasonable states, not CA, NY, etc.)
     
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    About the time Mr. Diversity got centered in the mirror would have been the proper moment to put tranny in "Race", and stomp pedal to the metal.

    AKA "Alternate Crowbar Launch Method"
     
  14. OF

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    I'm betting you'd have a hard time finding a jury that would put you away for that one. Maybe I'm wrong. i don't think I'd have the self-restraint to wait until he got through a window and had access to the cabin. Nor do I think I should have to. I suppose escape via flooring it was a possible option, but in the video it looks like the driver wasn't able to execute that little maneuver with any success...

    - Gabe
     
  15. Mr. Mysterious

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    I think that it was staged, but the person in the PT Cruiser was an unsuspecting victim. The guy with the camera didn't have a run of the mill camcorder, judging from his shadow it was a professional model. I think that both the crack head and the camera man and whoever else was there are all as liable.
     
  16. Shield529

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    I have looked into this a little and it appears it is real. This was done during a gang documentry and occured without prompting. I am not 100% sure but this is the info out there.
    That said he would have absorbed 14 .40 Cal sabres before he hit the second window.
     
  17. JamisJockey

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    I don't think it was a good shoot. That person could have tried to escape by driving over the sidewalk. Running the person over would have probably been justified during the esacape, though. Now, when the PT Loser gets high-centered on a curb and the attack continues, then its sight picture, sight alignment, all ready on the firing line...
     
  18. DigMe

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    That's really infuriating. What a piece of crap. That has to be in one of the gun-unfriendly states...probably California. I don't think someone would be so brazen in broad daylight in a shall-issue state. I don't know maybe they would...


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  19. buy guns

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    there were a couple opportunities for the PT to crush the guy between the PT and the car in front of or behind it. that is what i would have done because i cant carry yet. if i was carrying i like to hope i would shoot him.

    no jury would convict you with the way he was yelling into the camera before hand.
     
  20. meathammer

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    You would think the driver would've shown a little more urgency to escape. If it was staged, very stupid. What if a good samaritan got out of his vehicle and plugged "tire iron man"?

    Watching this I was thinking the driver was going to get pulled out of his car and beat. Crazy.

    When he was behind the vehicle, the car behind him should've pinned him to the bumper. I would. People don't help each other nowadays. That's really a shame.


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  21. American_Pit_Bull

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    Looking at the store fronts in the background; this seems to have taken place in Vegas.
     
  22. 45 Carry

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    The driver should have noticed the crazed nut and the camera long before the tire iron was picked up and as soon as the nut moved toward the car driven away. Should have done a 45 degree turn to the right and left the area driving foward or backed up. That sould have been done at least with the first hit on the fender. I wouldn't have considered at that point a deadly force situation since I could disengage from the scene. I sure would have liked to have done some gene pool cleaning however.
     
  23. LynnMassGuy

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    What really disturbs me about that video is that could be my wife or sister in the car. I am certain I could handle that situation but what would they do? Human filth. It makes me nauseous. :fire:
     
  24. TonyB

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    I WOULD'VE RAN THIS MORON OVER.
     
  25. Zundfolge

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    Tire Iron = lethal weapon ... ergo good shoot

    Judging by the position of the curb and the fact there was a car in front of it (and the PT Cruiser pulled both forward and back) escape wasn't possible ... at the point the crackhead puts his arms out to his sides and says "so [n-word] what you gonna do?" my response would have been two COM shots.

    Then after the smoke clears, the guy with the camera gets to give me and my lawyer everything he owns for inciting this crackhead to attack me.



    If this was shot in Vegas then its uberstupid since Nevada is a CCW state.


    $10 says it was staged (and the guy in the PT Cruiser was in on it)
     
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