76shuvlinoff
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Being a lefty I found it a great way to carry when on a motorcycle. I either had a micro 1911 in an adjustable cant OWB kydex holster or a full size 1911 in a vertical shoulder rig.
Hey maybe that's it. I'm a southpaw as well, maybe only southpaws who think with the right side of the brain have figured out the advantages of cross drawBeing a lefty I found it a great way to carry when on a motorcycle. I either had a micro 1911 in an adjustable cant OWB kydex holster or a full size 1911 in a vertical shoulder rig.
Cross draw is a common way of carry among concealed carriers because it allows fast access to the pistol while driving or otherwise in a seated position. It is not a common way of open carry because it makes attempting a gun grab easier than it should be. When a cross draw carried pistol is concealed, the potential for a gun grab goes way down. Why do you say that it is uncommon for concealed carry?What are the disadvantages and advantages to this method of carry with semi-automatics pistols and revolvers; and does it require a special holster to carry in such a way? There must be reason why it's not prevalent.
Thanks.
Cross draw.
Advantages: More comfortable for longer periods of seated time or seated drawing, like in a car.
Disadvantages: Slower drawing times, flagging people as you draw and sweep the pistol, opponent facing you could draw your gun...
If drawing from a cross draw is slower, or one is flagging people, the draw is simply not being executed properly.
From concealment, presenting from an open front crossdraw can actually be done slightly faster than from strong side hip carry because the cover garment need not be swept away during the "access" step.
Last, how can your opponent draw your gun if he does not know it is there?
First, If one has his target at 12 oclock when his pistol is coming out of the holster, it is his sluggishness in getting his feet into shooting position that is slowing him down.
Why would one wait until the sights are on the target before aligning his body with the target?
Second, learning how to draw a pistol safely from any concealed position is unnatural and takes longer than drawing from unconcealed positions.
Putting a cross draw holster where it is natural to draw from does make it difficult to conceal.
The same is true of a strong side hip holster.
Third, my speed drill involves two Bianchi D1 Tombstone targets at 21 feet. I shoot them both twice inside the center mass line. From my crossdraw, I average just over 1.3 seconds to 4 hits with a .45 ACP. From my strong side hip holster, I average just under 1.5 seconds with a .45. It is not a huge difference, about 10%, but slower its not.
The muzzle is raised onto the primary target from the bottom, not the side, even when doing it that way is a little slower.
Posted by Matthew Courtney: First, If one has his target at 12 oclock when his pistol is coming out of the holster, it is his sluggishness in getting his feet into shooting position that is slowing him down. Why would one wait until the sights are on the target before aligning his body with the target?
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Third, my speed drill involves two Bianchi D1 Tombstone targets at 21 feet
That scenario is why I carry one pistol cross draw. I have a spot on my range set up for people to practice dealing with that type of threat from their car. It is a point shoot drill and first hits from a crossdraw holster are in .6-.7 seconds. The pistol is aligned with the target as it clears the holster and the left hand stays on the wheel while one point shoots under it. It is one of the most fun drills that we have.All okay for stationary Bianchi Tombstone targets at 21 ft., but how about a target moving around your car door at 5 m/s?
Quit making stuff up. I never said that the techniques we teach do not work unless one aligns his position with the target. I wrote that one should align his position with the target while presenting the pistol. I have trained over 1000 NRA Instructors to teach people to align their position with the target because one can get hits faster that way.
Every NRA Instructor in the country teaches that technique.
You can do it while carrying a child.
Do you actually believe that you know more about pistol shooting than the NRA?
Your infantile need to have your preferred method promulgated as the "best" is causing you to mislead people.
If you are an NRA Instructor and are not teaching students to align their position with the target when you teach an NRA class, I need to get your full name, address, and NRA Instructor number so that NRA can review your credentials for not teaching according to NRA standards and guidelines. It is not permissible for NRA instructors to teach what they believe is best when teaching NRA classes. If you think that you know better than the NRA, you are free to offer David M's training classes. Put your money where your mouth is. Give me your full name and NRA number. That, combined with your Confession here that you teach what you want because you believe your way is superior to NRA's way will allow NRA to correct the problem of having an instructor that fails to uphold NRA standards in NRA classes.I didnt make up anything. You stated: it is his sluggishness in getting his feet into shooting position that is slowing him down.
This certainly implies that "proper body alignment" is essential, in your view, to make fast, accurate hits. That's just blather.
Um, no, they don't.
Really? Describe your draw sequence using a crossdraw holster while carrying a child.
When it comes to shooting fast and accurately, I humbly say, yes. And I say that as a certified NRA Instructor, since that seems to carry some weight with you, since you keep citing your credentials.
Interesting reaction..... I posted some real-life shortcomings of crossdraw and suddenly you make personal attacks?
And you claim to teach NRA instructors?