Curio & Relic Carry Piece

[halfmoonclip]

U.S. Armament was for a while making reproductions of the Colt 1903s

I was fortunate enough to score one of the extra magazines from this run, for a genuine '03. Nice to have a spare.
Moon

 

[Terry G]

Assuming the basic C&R definition of "anything over 50 years old", I don't really see anything remarkable about carrying such things. Of course, removing the majority of DA revolvers - not to mention the 1911! - does narrow the field a bit, but still...

The 50 year old thing is not engraved in stone. The CZ 82's I bought were no where near fifty years old when I bought them, same for the Makarov's. The Curio part means the design is no longer produced. Look at the C&R list the BATFE put's out and you'll be amazed by the guns on there.

 

[halfmoonclip]

The 50 year old thing is not engraved in stone. The CZ 82's I bought were no where near fifty years old when I bought them, same for the Makarov's. The Curio part means the design is no longer produced. Look at the C&R list the BATFE put's out and you'll be amazed by the guns on there.

I should carry the list, though, truly, I don't use my C&R all that much. But you are correct; all kinds of interesting things are C&R.
Moon

 

[Sovblocgunfan]

What is C&R age again? 50 years?

If so, then my 1970 Model 49 counts. I carry the heck out of him. Cute lil bugger, ain’t he?

 

[armoredman]

I was mentioning to a buddy that the Howell conversion cylinders for the 1858 New Model Army are in stock, and it might be kind of nice having the ability to shoot 45 Colt in my hogleg. He mentioned that some people he knew back in the day who were a wee bit short on cash would shoot black in their BP revolvers then switch to a conversion cylinder for self defense. I wasn't honestly considering that at all, but even at 850 FPS I'd assume a 255gr flat point would do a serious number on a bad guy. That might qualify for your C&R carry piece, even though they are new production.

 

[d2wing]

So is a P-38 old? I am over 75 and don't consider anything made since WW2 very old. Now my 2001 Z-28 is eligible for collector plates. I consider it new. Old er would be my 68 Camaro if I still had it. Old would be my dad's 28 model A Ford that he bought for $28 used off a car lot when I was a kid.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

Lot of interesting discussion here. I like it.

 

[ThomasT]

I have carried one of my S&W model 31-1 2" revolvers before. Its chambered in 32 long. I like it. It was made around 1976 so not too old. Its in like new condition except for some freckling on the cylinder. It must have laid in a holster in a sock drawer. I have the box and original sales receipt for it when it sold new.

 

[sgt127]

I bought a beautiful Nazi Police PPK. Had it with me and decided to run out to the department Range to pop off a few rounds. It worked perfectly.

I was working plain clothes at the time and took off my duty gun while I was at the range.

So, I loaded it, stuck it in my waistband and, headed back to my office. My duty gun, was in the trunk.

On the way back, an Officer got in pursuit. The guy bailed and was running on foot. I kinda guessed where he was running towards and intercepted him.

Sure enough, he popped out of an alley and, I ordered him to the ground.

After lots of ‘I swear to god! You better stop or, I’ll shoot yer ass!” At gunpoint. He dropped to the ground. I cuffed him. And, the pursuing Officer took custody of him.

It then, kinda occurred to me, the optics of the German heritage Officer actually shooting a suspect with a Nazi Walther PPK, might look….

Yeah. No.

 

[ThomasT]

After lots of ‘I swear to god! You better stop or, I’ll shoot yer ass!” At gunpoint. He dropped to the ground. I cuffed him. And, the pursuing Officer took custody of him.

It then, kinda occurred to me, the optics of the German heritage Officer actually shooting a suspect with a Nazi Walther PPK, might look….

Yeah. No.

That was a good story. It would be even better if you would have shot him. One less problem in the world.

I have a Walther/Manurin made in 1957 I have carried a couple of times. What a slick little gun. Mine is in 32acp. I paid $250 OTD for it at a pawn shop. Someone had lost the extractor. I bought a new one from S&W when the were building PPKs under license for a while. It cost me $15 to repair the gun. Mine has the Walther scrubbed on the frame and grips. I have read the Manurin made Walthers were as good if not better than the Walther made guns.

Whats kind of funny is that the OP has a 32acp of some sort that he has never shot that I know of. It should be an excellent pocket gun and do just what he wants to do with a pocket gun. How about a picture or two of your 32 Dan?

 

[Mosin77]

I have a lot of .32s. All of them would do the job if necessary. That said, realistically I’d never choose to carry one these days since there are other guns I own (or could own if I chose to save up for a little bit) that would do the job so much better in terms of weight, sights, capacity, stopping power, even recoil, etc.


Old .32s are among my favorite guns and great fun at the range, but a Glock 43 or S&W Shield Plus, they ain’t.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

That was a good story. It would be even better if you would have shot him. One less problem in the world.

I have a Walther/Manurin made in 1957 I have carried a couple of times. What a slick little gun. Mine is in 32acp. I paid $250 OTD for it at a pawn shop. Someone had lost the extractor. I bought a new one from S&W when the were building PPKs under license for a while. It cost me $15 to repair the gun. Mine has the Walther scrubbed on the frame and grips. I have read the Manurin made Walthers were as good if not better than the Walther made guns.

Whats kind of funny is that the OP has a 32acp of some sort that he has never shot that I know of. It should be an excellent pocket gun and do just what he wants to do with a pocket gun. How about a picture or two of your 32 Dan?

Let’s see if I can dig ‘em out my friend… they’re here… somewhere. Sidearm in question is a Zastava M70 that I’m in the middle of stripping/polishing… everyone here knows I’m the living definition of “procrastination”… I’ll get to finishing it… eventually. Maybe when the 80hr work weeks ease up. Anyways, .32 Automatic, 8+1. Built like a tank

 

[Eutycus]

My S&W model 36 is only 6 years younger than me.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

I originally purchased it under the absolute delusion that it’d be a serviceable pocket piece- or failing that; a passable appendix IWB carry… unfortunately, no. My love handles disagree with such assumptions.

It’s absolutely spectacular for what I imagine it was designed for- a military officer’s badge of rank (similar to the Colt 1903 in WW2) or for a law officer’s sidearm… excellent in a high-ride, pancake style holster, or even a shoulder rig… but for myself at least, it does not pass muster as a pocket gun.

Do not mistake me- I’ve no issue with the design or quality… the machining is good for a military issue sidearm, with little to no chatter or tooling marks (bare minimum), finish was excellent (until I stripped the bluing ), fit was excellent- no excessive slide/frame rattle, barrel bushing has little slop in it. It functions fully as it should, and I trust it… I simply can not acclimate myself to the funky safety- it’s in an odd position, and is somewhat mushy; with no way to adjust said mushiness

 

[Gordon]

The 32 S&W snub hammerless H&R top break was carried by my wife 20 years+ ago when she had an ice cream factory in a seedy area. It was reliable and still is and tiny and safely carried I have carried the Snub .38 S&W bicycle 2" made over into a reliable shooter by a Thr forum member here.It shoots to point of aim at 10 yards and is completely reliable. All guns pictureed are shooters and they are for sale to your FFL . I will sell all the collection reasonably, but keeping the modified ersatz " Bicycle" S&W .38

 

[EMC45]

If my S&W 31-1 snub is then that too. I carry it all the time.

 

[ThomasT]

It’s absolutely spectacular for what I imagine it was designed for- a military officer’s badge of rank (similar to the Colt 1903 in WW2) or for a law officer’s sidearm… excellent in a high-ride, pancake style holster, or even a shoulder rig… but for myself at least, it does not pass muster as a pocket gun.

Do not mistake me- I’ve no issue with the design or quality… the machining is good for a military issue sidearm, with little to no chatter or tooling marks (bare minimum), finish was excellent (until I stripped the bluing ), fit was excellent- no excessive slide/frame rattle, barrel bushing has little slop in it. It functions fully as it should, and I trust it… I simply can not acclimate myself to the funky safety- it’s in an odd position, and is somewhat mushy; with no way to adjust said mushiness

IIRC you told me you wear a lot of overalls. Even to church. I knew an older man who wore overalls and carried a 4" model 10 everwhere he went and of all the time I was around him never knew he a had a duty sized gun in his pocket. I bet you can carry your Zastava if you tried.

As to the safety just get used to it.

I think this is the bluing that Michael Tinker Pearce uses on his guns and he gets an good looking blue from it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DWD5ZYV/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=A10GAM5PS7AGUE&psc=1

 

[buttrap]

Here I carry a mauser 96 at times as its flat and works like a colt 1911 out of the stripper clip deal or a 100 year old smith .38. And have a walther P-38 that does fine too as a woods truck and a
tv gun.

 

[Mr. Mosin]

IIRC you told me you wear a lot of overalls. Even to church. I knew an older man who wore overalls and carried a 4" model 10 everwhere he went and of all the time I was around him never knew he a had a duty sized gun in his pocket. I bet you can carry your Zastava if you tried.

As to the safety just get used to it.

I think this is the bluing that Michael Tinker Pearce uses on his guns and he gets an good looking blue from it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DWD5ZYV/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=A10GAM5PS7AGUE&psc=1

Not for years Thomas… mainly Wranglers and a button down on the town or a untucked polo at work.

 

[armoredman]

So here we go, Uberti 1858 New Model Army with Howell 45 Colt conversion cylinder. Once I get it broken in I just might carry it once, just to say I did.