Nah, you guys are doing just fine.
hahaha... same happened to me when I was making it.
Without getting offensively bold, yes that would work, but not something I'd put in the hands of one of my kids (and the oldest has been practicing hard for the last year with a .223 and .243 hoping to hunt next year) until I had tested the living whiz bangs out of it. My ideal deer pills may or may not get recovered, but when they do, they leave about %50 mass behind because I want the energy shock. I can track and I have dogs to help but that's not how I want her first hunt to go. All that energy does no good in the dirt on the far side pinholing through the vitals. You break a bone and that's different. With a 110 ttsx at a very conservative 2650, you're looking at 2100+ fps and 1099 energy at 200. That bullet will break bones and pass through and at 2100 it will create QUITE the cavity. A 120 btip I've already computed and that looks favorable as well, Sierra offers a 120 soft tip. In all the deer I've hunted, only 2 were whitetail, all the rest were these invincible muleys that can't be killed with anything less than a .270. Deer do not take much to kill. If I put a kid on a deer I want more shock and awe to allow for a better follow up if needed. The btip WILL open at 1800 and WOULD work for deer, but they're more destructive fast and even at muzzle you won't exceed the limits and risk shattering it. Put hogs on the menu and I'd say you're right on for penetration purposes, but deer run away from you not towards you, and if/when the kid isn't dead center of a .75" dot over the heart, I want the shock and shrapnel to help. I like having enough energy to get the job done but lighter weights with proper construction (might still avoid the varmint HP and vmax) will buck even less and they'll still do the job fine. If you or I were taking the shot I'd be less worried.Nah, you guys are doing just fine.
Horsey, I was thinking what a 140-grain NBT could do out of a necked-down 7.62x39 case in a strong action. Would be a splendid hunting round inside 200 (easily carrying 1100 ft.lbs.+ at that range if started at 2250 at the muzzle) and isn't that really as far as you would want any new or young hunter to shoot anyway?
You're missing the point - 6mm Dasher is a superior cartridge for the application in a mini-action, flat out. So that's the custom side of things.
You're considering the savage kids......check out the 7ihmsa....maybe take it one farther to the 6.5 for better bc.....300 Sav necked down and blown out.......
Funny you should mention that one. I considered the 7 for my savage 11, going to 6.5 would be similar to my creedmoor i think.
Move a 120 with a Max load of blc-2 put you right about 2750???? That's just under 7-08 performance with same weight... and just under the middle performance of a 120 cm, think middle ground between Grendel and .260/cm
You're missing the point - 6mm Dasher is a superior cartridge for the application in a mini-action, flat out. So that's the custom side of things.
On the factory side, the CZ offering is so overweight as to be substantially larger and heavier than similarly priced and featured rifles using .308 size cartridges. So the 6.5 Grendel loses on the factory side of things.
Factory, custom, auto, bolt - doesn't matter. The 6.5 Grendel manages to lose wherever it goes
Yeah, actually you are. 6mm Dasher is a CUSTOM option. The superior factory offering is the Savage Lightweight Hunter in .243, .260 or 6.5CM. It's smaller, lighter, probably more accurate, and chambered in much more capable rounds. If you're trying to figure out how to shoot a superior factory rifle cheaply, that's your solution.
