6.5 Grendel Bolt Gun - Anyone Do It?

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If I do this does anyone know who makes aftermarket stocks for this action? I like the look of what I believe McMillan calls the HTG stock. It's a basic hunting profile.

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I'm getting ready to start on a 6.5 Grendel Savage build. My wife wants a bolt action rifle she can learn with and for a variety of reasons the 6.5 Grendel ended up being the best choice:

1) She's not a fan of recoil. She thinks our 10/22 has noticeable recoil. :)
2) I don't have a large stockpile of 223 components for LR shooting (I have a lot of mixed brass and 55/62gr bullets for AR plinking)
3) I shoot and reload for a 6.5 Grendel semi LRP and I have 500 Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass and 2000 Lapua Scenar 123s and 2000 A-Max 123s.

I already have the Savage DBM action, McGowen 24" 1:8 6.5 Grendel barrel, and PTG bolt-head for the build. Trying to decide on the best stock for my wife. Preferably a stock with an adjustable (short) LOP.
 
For stocks, if McMillan inlets for the CZ 527, go McMillan. Expensive, but worth every penny. I got my first earlier this year and I'm already planning 2 more.
 
OldBrownDog said:
For stocks, if McMillan inlets for the CZ 527, go McMillan. Expensive, but worth every penny. I got my first earlier this year and I'm already planning 2 more.
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I like Manners stocks, but both Manners and McMillan have 6-12 month waits for new stocks so you have to be patient.
 
waiting on a stock won't be a problem. I'm poor so it will delay the pain a bit!!!

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I have several CZ 527s and I think they are great little rifles. OK, they are fantastic rifles. I also have bolt rifles in 6.5 CRDM, 6.5X55, and 6.5-284. I aso had a 24" upper from AA in 6.5 Grendel that was just nuts accurate with 107 gr. SMKs and 123 gr. A-Maxs. No way would I ever do a 527 in 6.5 Grendel. No matter what, the Grendle still has a trajectory like a spud gun. Not ideal for wide open western spaces.

Now a 527 chambered in one of the 6.8 SPC variants would rock. Especially the 22, 6mm, or 25 DTI. FWIW, when I was considering a wildcat on a 527 action, modifying magazines to get them to work became a real issue.
 
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Now a 527 chambered in one of the 6.8 SPC variants would rock. Especially the 22, 6mm, or 25 DTI. FWIW, when I was considering a wildcat on a 527 action, modifying magazines to get them to work became a real issue.
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Hence the fact that I am considering a 6.5G in a 527. It's an easy thing. The bolt is already all set for the 6.5G case head. It's basically a barrel and put it in a stock kinda thing.

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Any updates on this?

I wanted to build a 6.5 Grendel AR, but then starting thinking about a CZ bolt gun. I love my 527 carbine chambered in x39. Last night I put 5 rounds of Grendel in the mag just to see, and it fit and fed perfectly!

Is CZ still selling the 527 action? Any good stocks out there? Barrel options?

By the time everything is said and done, I feel like the CZ might even be cheaper than an AR, and less finicky.

I know Howa is supposed to be coming out with a Grendel offering by the end of this year. Do you think CZ will too?
 
I agree with the second post on this thread. I don't see the point. I have a 6.5 grendel in an AR. I have a .260 in a bolt action. If you want a 6.5 in a short action bolt gun, I'd look at .260, 6.5 creedmore, 6.5 lapua.

That being said, if you want it just because you want it, why not.
 
It fits in the micro-mauser action. And I like CZ.
Building a Grendel AR seemed like fun until I priced everything.

Ultimately, its just because I want to, and it seemed like it may be an easier route than building an AR. I could build an AR myself, but would have to get a gunsmith for the CZ though.

I'm just looking for anyone thats done it, or thought about doing it.
 
Tophernj;

I'm going to go t'other way. Because you've stated that the gun will be primarily used for target work, and size/weight is not a primary factor, I'll suggest you look at the CZ550. That's a full sized Mauser action that would work beautifully for the 6.5 X 55mm Swedish Mauser. If you want accuracy, the Swede is known for it, with mild recoil to boot. Again, for your stated purpose, the larger gun is going to ride the bags better and it'll also reduce perceived recoil.

I'll also suggest that you pay no attention to the short/long action arguments. There are perhaps about 150 people competitively shooting in this country today who are good enough to prove that they need the exceedingly slight advantage of a short action. If you're literally not gunning for a spot on the Palma team, Olympics, taking the Wimbledon Cup, etc., it's all rhetoric. Given that you and your smith can produce the gun & have the accuracy skills on the trigger, the Swede is fully capable of giving outstanding accuracy to any remotely reasonable range.

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I think some people here are missing the point. If we wanted a bigger cartridge, then we would get a different setup. People want the Grendel in a smaller package, and the CZ 527 action is a pretty good setup. You use the existing magazine and bolt face. The only thing you have to do is provide a barrel.

The picture below shows the size comparison between all the 6.5 cartridges. Notice the Grendel is the smallest.

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Not everyone wants to shoot the biggest bullets the fastest. Its like saying that nobody should bother with a 223 because there is the 22-250 or 220 Swift.

I'm not a bench rest shooter. I don't compete. I just want to shoot the 6.5 Grendel, and maybe not do it in an AR.
 
Fireman, I'm in the process of my build now. CZ sells the 527 action only in the 7.62x39 arrangement. Buds has them for sale at about $400. I'm using a CZ stock ($175). Barrel is Lothar Walther.

This will be my main hunting rifle this fall.

The new Howa mini mausers in Grendel is out, so that's another option.
 
I didn't think the Howa Grendel was coming out until summer?

Any people are forgetting a HUGE reason to use the 527 action...the SST trigger! If you've never used one you're missing out.

Bill Hicks should have the 527 actions in stock.
 
It seems like the CZ conversion will run you over $1k pretty quickly. I think I would take a hard look at the Howa's, it shouldn't be too long till they are available anyway.
 
It seems like the CZ conversion will run you over $1k pretty quickly
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Yes. Seems like there is no cheap option with an AR either unless you just go bare bones.

If CZ would just go ahead and build it themselves it would save everybody a lot of money!
 
I personally would be interested, whether you agree with it or not I still want a "scout" rifle and have come to the conclusion that a) No manufacture is able to create one meeting all the requirements and b) if you compromise a little on the round it would be much easier to meet the desired weight with a mini action. It's good to know which of those would be the most efficient and it sounds like the Grendel is a top consideration. I thought I saw that they are also importing steel cased versions of the round which would offer cheaper plinking ammo as well.
 
6.5 grendel is a cartridge without its own magazine having to make do with a magazine well thats way too small
 
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Justin, I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain?
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grendel is too wide to fit a proper double column magazine in the AR-15, so the mags you do get for it are suboptimal.. a big compromise, and no one makes grendel mags for anything else, 7.62x39 mags have way too much curvature so its not such an easy conversion for a 7.62x39 rifle

best bet is to use something like a mossberg MVP that uses AR mags and put on a 7.62x39 bolt with a 6.5 grendel to use grendel AR mags, it wasnt a very well thought out cartridge
 
The Grendel is too wide to fit a proper double column magazine in the AR-15,
so the mags you do get for it are suboptimal
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The Grendel fits & feeds from a standard AR-15 (i.e., 5.56) magazine just fine.
Trust me.... ;)
 
justin22885 said:
grendel is too wide to fit a proper double column magazine in the AR-15, so the mags you do get for it are suboptimal.. a big compromise, and no one makes grendel mags for anything else, 7.62x39 mags have way too much curvature so its not such an easy conversion for a 7.62x39 rifle

best bet is to use something like a mossberg MVP that uses AR mags and put on a 7.62x39 bolt with a 6.5 grendel to use grendel AR mags, it wasnt a very well thought out cartridge
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How is a cobbled together MVP better than a purpose built Howa?
 
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The original poster asked about a bolt action Grendel rifle. The CZ has a magazine designed for the 7.62x39 cartridge not an AR magazine. I'm guessing the Howa would be similar but don't know for sure.

Your point seems to be that AR magazines can't double stack 6.5 Grendel cartridges. Why is that suboptimal for a bolt action action gun? I can see your point for a self defense rifle if you required 20 or 30 rounds.
 
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