Canik's are poly-framed, striker-fired guns with Glock-ish triggers - pretty darn different than CZ Shadows and Tanfoglio competition guns. They're getting some use in carry optics because some of their models are basically set up that way from the factory. Two of the guys at my club have them, both with iron sights. I've shot them a couple of times. The main thing I would say about getting one for competition is that they are very reasonably priced. In terms of actual shooting, the main thing I would say about them is that they are very reasonably priced. In terms of what I have observed of reliability from those 2 guns, the main thing I would say about them is that they are very reasonably priced.
It is possible I have seen two individual examples best characterized by their price.
Dave, thank you for taking the time to write that outstanding post above. I'm a big fan of the CZ 75 platform and derivatives and appreciate the details you provide. I don't shoot competition but I keep inching my way toward better and better setups by tweaking my base CZs (like the 85 Combat, SP-01, and 97B) with CGW and CZC parts to suit my preferences. But, I keep wondering if I should bite the bullet and buy a higher level factory gun, wondering if it'd be a lot more satisfying for me than what I can achieve tinkering with the base guns....Oh boy! [rubs hands in glee at topic/question]
Short version: Either brand is extremely suitable for these purposes. The most important thing is figuring out which of the equipment divisions you want to play in, and then buying an appropriate model - but both makers have highly competitive and comparable offerings for each division where they are relevant.
Long version: Is long. You've been warned.............
Nothing wrong with looking for a reason to buy a new gun, but I'd think your S&W 1911, HK VP 9, and Wilson Beretta 92 would all be competitive in their respective divisions.
BJ Norris with a Wilson Beretta
Quick question for @ATLDave, you shoot your 10mm Witness Limited for Limited Division, correct?
If so, is 10mm a pretty common cartridge in Limited? Seems given my enjoyment it’d be ideal for that reason alone, and I can load it how I want within the rules of course. Or do you typically see more 40 S&W shooters? Just wondering.
I’d have to get used to the notion of losing a lot of 10mm brass.
The OP is only "thinking" about competition. Actually he doesn't even need a new gun. He can shoot what he has. (HK or WC whatever).
I see. You can only download them so far I suppose.I do that and I am an IDIOT for doing it. There’s no good way to justify it. I mean, being able to use 220’s is cool, but, no, if you’re not insane get a .40 for USPSA limited. I can’t in good conscience recommend my particular flavor of insanity to others, although I enjoy it.
Now, that said, I shoot more indoor than outdoor matches, and do manage to get 80+% of my brass back. And I mark those cases, so they’re a little easier to find.
But when I had an open gun built this year, I got it in 9mm Major so I could just leave brass. I shot a match today and picked up zero brass. That’s kind of nice, too.
I’m just saying the extra expense of the brass is pointless.
Ah. I see.This.. you will be "running and gunning". I generally come home with a paltry sum of the brass I went to the event with.
Your Tac Sport a .40 S&W I take it, not a 9mm?
Oh, no, you can download them highly effectively. You can get them below major PF if you want. 4.4 grains of N320 under a 220 makes major while being very soft in my guns.
I’m just saying the extra expense of the brass is pointless.
So gents, can you explain something to me?Correct. No way Id ever leave points on the table shooting minor when I have a choice.
So gents, can you explain something to me?
The CZ Tactical Sport was designed for competition. Based on the requirements and major PF requirements of 40 caliber and higher, what role would the 9mm tactical sport play in any of these divisions? It seems like a bastard child that would logically fit nowhere.
Did they just produce it in 9mm because people wanted them for giggles?
The shadow 2 and its variants make sense. The tactical sport in 9mm not so much. What am I missing?
Ah. Right. I have more reading to do.3gun. Steel challenge limited division (all steel, everything is either a hit or a miss, no power factor).
Thanks for posting this link. After shooting my Shadow and a lot of dry fire I decided bigger grip panels were needed. Did a little googling and these definitely looked like the best option. Ordered some Bogies on Friday.As for the grip size of the Shadow 2, you can get some big-*** panels for it. https://lokgrips.com/cz-gun-grips/cz-shadow-2
I find myself wanting a a CZ TSO now, but I’m considering a Witness Limited as an alternative. I don’t have any Tanfoglio guns yet.I think the Tanfoglio Limited Elite models are a heckuva bang for the buck, they're significantly less money than the CZ Tactical Sport and you can swap slides for different calibers on them. That said, an STI 2011 is the best tool for limited class IMO, you can buy used ones and STI will cover them under warranty no matter how many owners the firearm has had.
I handled a Tactical Sport Orange today. I’m still drooling. I see why you like the Tactical Sport in general. Felt great in the hand and that trigger was pretty special.Correct. No way Id ever leave points on the table shooting minor when I have a choice.
I handled a Tactical Sport Orange today. I’m still drooling. I see why you like the Tactical Sport in general. Felt great in the hand and that trigger was pretty special.
I almost put it on layaway but something else caught my attention, and it was a 9mm. Since I still don’t know for sure if Limited Division is a direction I want to go, without it being a 40 S&W, I thought jumping on it now would be a poorly thought out decision.
But dang. I see why you like your two tone.