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Cz p-07

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by MikeNice, Jun 12, 2011.

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  1. MikeNice

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    I heard that the early P-07s had issues with the magazine releasing. I also read of a couple failing to return to battery with 115gr ammo. Front sight paint also seemed to be a problem area.

    Has CZ corrected these issues since the introduction? My wife is getting me a gun for our anniversary in September. This one is high on my list because of the mix of features and price. Any feed back on the model would be appreciated.
     
  2. candr44

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    I wouldn't buy one sight unseen. I checked out several PO7 pistols and found several with sticky mags. One I couldn't even get the mag out of the gun without prying it out.

    This was over a year ago and I believe that the problems have been corrected. I did find one without any problems and I don't regret buying it. It truned out to be very accurate and easy to shoot.

    I recently read a interview article with a CZ representative and they apparently have an entire line of pistols planned based on the PO7. From full sized to compact like their RAMI pistol and in .40 caliber also.
     
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  3. Apocalypse-Now

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    check out the CZ-forum. there's all sorts of bizarre issues with that gun lol
     
  4. threefeathers

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    I've never seen one fail.
     
  5. CZF

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    [​IMG]

    While the gun did have some teething problems a few years ago.

    The newer 9mms seem to be running good now.

    My friend in S. Africa is quite thrilled to have one.

    No problems with the .40s from day one.

    At least from any guys that I know of.

    They really love them.

    The testing in the new Annual is quite impressive.
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    Pics:

    http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/hakan/P-07DUTY.html

    Whether or not the CZech Police will replace their P-01s with the
    P-07 Duty is not clear yet.


    Thailand, India and Burma, along with Israeli forces seems to be quite
    content with the Duty.

    IT is currently the cheapest CZ 9mm or .40 you can buy.

    Look to HIGH NOON for P-07 Duty holsters:

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    www.highnoonholsters.com

    www.cz-usa.com
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  6. MikeNice

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    CZF, thanks for the post. I actually love the looks of the gun. I just need to get my hands on one to see how much I like it.

    I've decided to get either the P-07 Duty or 2075 Rami (Alloy) for my first auto. Then I just saw a Model 64 NY-1 S&W in excellent condition for $342. So, I might be putting off the auto.
     
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    I'd like to get one. I handled the P07 recently and seeing it in person changed my mind. The Omega trigger is nice also, but I do want to make sure the frame bulge issue is in the past before I buy.
     
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    I agree. I know they say it's cosmetic, but the frame issue kept me from ordering one.
     
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    I had an early one that liked to keep the mags... that problem has worn out with use and they all pop out free and clear now. The paint insert in my front sight also went missing. Didn't really matter though as I was replacing them with Trits anyways. Not the first CZ where the factory sights have done that.

    I really like my P07 a lot. Just beware the trigger heating on active shooting days.
     
  10. ranburr

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    Mine works great thus far, 1K rounds. Will know more when I get around 10K thru it.
     
  11. MikeNice

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    I had one more question and I can not seem to find the answer. Is the P-07 Duty rated for +P ammo? I am thinking of running Winchester "NATO" (124gr+p) rounds for practice. Would the gun handle it?

    I was also wondering about the Rami P. Would it handle +P?

    The torture test article in the CZ annual has sold me on the P-07. I'm heading to the shop to fondle one either today or next Tuesday. If I like it, I will be getting one in hand by September.
     
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    I have an early one and despite it still hanging on to the magazines most days, it shoots great and has been totally reliable and accurate. I own many CZs and the Omega trigger is an improvement in both lightness and reset over the 'standard' CZ trigger, which is good in most cases (CZ100 is the exception). My very limited experience with CZ customer service has been outstanding. I'd check one out and if it fits your hand (likely), I can certainly recommend one.

    Kent in MI
     
  13. MikeNice

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    I bought my CZ P-07. So far the gun has had no issues with mags dropping free or anything of that sort.

    I haven't had it on the range yet. I scrubbed it clean and lubed it. Then I spent some time working the slide and dry firing. So far everything is operating exactly as it should. The DA trigger pull has lightened up a little bit and the trigger feels a litle more crisp. If it breaks in with rounds as quick it should be up to speed fast.

    So far I am a happy camper. My only complaint is that the magazines are too stiff to load with 16 rounds. I figure they will break in pretty quickly and self correct. If they don't I'll contact CZ.
     
  14. MikeNice

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    50 rounds of RWS fed without an issue. The gun runs like a champion right out of the box.

    My wife hates shooting anything bigger than .22WMR and she liked it. After about ten rounds she started dropping them all in the black on a B2 target. She was shooting from about seven yards and nailed a 2.5" four shot group standing free hand.

    Today I was completely off. I couldn't keep all of my shots in the scoring area. I had about 70% of my shots land outside of the black. They were generally high and left. Left seems to be the gun. The high impact and spread was all me. I was still having problems when I switched over to my .22WMR revolver.

    Overall the gun is geat. I encourage anyone looking for a gun under $500 to try it out. The weight and balance is realy good. With the mag in it feels solid and comfortable. The DA trigger pull can be heavy and awkward if you don't get your finger on there just right. The SA trigger pull is light and breaks cleanly.

    The low profile slide and bore axis make the recoil more of a gentle push than a snap. It feels more like a mild wave than a sharp impulse. Once you get dialed in with it the gun is very accurate. At least I believe it is after watching my wife :D
     
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    Great report. I think I will pick one up at some point soon!

    Any pics?
     
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    My bro bought one about a year ago and his hasn't experienced any of the issues described in this thread. It's had maybe 600-700 rounds through it. Hasn't had a single problem. Not a single failure or hiccup since day 1. It's a great pistol (and an excellent value). The only issue I have with it is the trigger. The single action pull feels more like a double action pull, though as a 1911 guy I'm sort of biased in that area ;)
     
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    Glad to hear it's working out well for you, Mike. The Phillipene Islands like it so much they dumped Glock to make the P-07 their issued sidearm.
     
  18. snooperman

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    How easy is the slide to rack on the P-07....

    compared to the P-01 phantom or the Glock 19?
     
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    No major difference. :)
     
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    I've never shot any other CZ besides the 82. Compared to that it is easier. Overall it is easy to rack if you overhand it. I have issues trying for the sling shot grip.

    The slide release isn't overly stiff. It will require some breaking in though.
     
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    Finally got a chance to run six more rounds through it today. (The total is now a whopping 56.) It fed one Federal Champion 115gr FMJ and five Remmington UMC 115gr FMJ without incident. I figured out most of my acuracy issue. I am pushing the gun left with my trigger finger. I'm also still trying to line up the sights exactly right.

    I didn't do as good as I wanted. I did get three of six shots in a 2.5" wide x 4.5" tall area at 7 yards. All six shots were in a 5" x 5" square. That is between the nipples and from the short ribs to the neck. I want to get better with it, but that makes me comfortable for SD.

    The DA trigger action is coming in to it's own. It is lightening up a little and losing some of that "stagey" feeling. At first you could feel three distinct stages. They are still there, but they glide by less obtrusively now.

    Next Monday I should be heading to the range to run between 100 and 145 rounds. I'll report back after I clean it up and inspect it. I plan on reporting back for the first 500 rounds at least. I want this to be a journal of sorts for other people considering the P-07. There isn't a lot of information out there. So, let this be one resource for those seeking a real world view of the gun.
     
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    Sounds good, keep the info coming. I am interested to see how it continues to do.

    I know the frame is poly. But is the slide steel or stainless? How is the slide "coated", blued or other?
     
  23. snooperman

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    How easy is it to rack the slide on this P-07?

    Is it as easy as the Glock 19?
     
  24. MikeNice

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    The slide is made from a single pice of bar stock. That is how CZ describes it. I haven't really looked to see what exactly that means. It feels just like the slide on any other CZ to me. The finish is "black polycoat." Really it looks like a charcoal gray piece of steel. You can't really tell that it is coated with anything.

    The slide is very smooth apart from the cocking serrations. It also has some interesting edges that give it a slightly sculpted look. It would be hard for a bg to grab the slide and push it out of battery.

    One of the things that is starting to really stand out is the grips. Each side of the slide has an indention that channels your trigger finger directly torwards the trigger. It also makes the trigger reach feel slightly shorter than the other CZ models. Get the gun in the proper hold quickly is easy.

    The texture of the grips is great. Being a guy that skate boarded in the 80's I like grip tape art. The texture looks like a high grit grip tape, but is comfortable during shooting. During extended carry it is agrivating against your skin. 50 rounds of shooting didn't produce any discomfort or rawness. I actually had more of an imprint from the front and rear serrations.

    I also noticed a nice little touch/extra this morning. The magazine well is beveled. It actually is beveled enough to help guide the magazine if you hit the opening off center or at an angle. A lot of people call that a "custom touch" on other guns. CZ does it with their lowest priced compact gun.

    The magazines still won't hold 16 rounds. If this continues to be an issue after I hit 200 rounds I will be calling CZ. It isn't a huge deal and I will live with it if I must. I won't let the loss of two rounds diminsh my enjoyment. Really, when you start talking about the difference betwenn 31 and 33 rounds is it important?

    Snooperman, I have not handled a Glock 19 in about a year. I would hate to give you a false impression. I will say this slide is dead easy. It was pretty easy right out of the box. I've been breaking it in by manually cycling rounds through the magazines. After at least 200 cycles (including shooting) it has gotten easier. I can now release it from the locked back position manually.

    To put it another way. My wife could easily rack it when it came out of the box. It has only gotten easier and smoother since then.
     
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    Thanks MikeNice, I like the looks and reviews of the P-07.

    I want another 9mm but for conceal carry and this one might just be the one I am going too get. I would like to get my hands on one and hopefully I will be able to do that at the next gun show in 2 weeks. I like the way the back of the frame of the CZ guns are made so that when firing it your thumb knuckle is not rapped constantly by the upper part where the grip is, like that which happens to me with the Glocks.
     
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