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Deer Camp Guns.What are you seeing

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by savanahsdad, Oct 3, 2012.

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  1. theriflespeaks1863

    theriflespeaks1863 Member

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    Mosin 91/30 (my preffered gun)- 7.62x54r-, M1 Carbine in .30 carbine-, Winchester M70 Shadow in .30-06, .54 Caliber Lyman Great Plains rifle, 12 ga. slug guns, 20 ga. slug guns, Lever actions in .30-30, and a Browning BAR Featherweight in .30-06, .58 caliber M1855 Springfield RM. That's my family's hunting arsenal.

    Last season, my Uncle's M70 claimed two does- both good eating size- and my Mosin claimed a medium-sized doe and an 8 point buck, plus a nine pointer from the season before. My first deer- a nubbin buck- was claimed with the BAR featherweight.

    Several deer have been claimed by the .54 Great Plains rifle over the years, and my Aunt rose pulled off one heck of a shot a few years back when she put a .30 Carbine round right through a doe's skull from 50 plus yards away....talk about a headache... :what:

    -Chris
     
  2. Scrumbag

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    Mostly CZ and Tikka bolt actions, mostly in .270 and .308.

    ATB,

    Scrummy
     
  3. Marty183

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    I love the fact that you use a Mosin for deer hunting...Maybe I should take mine out as well.

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  4. theriflespeaks1863

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    Definitely. Personally, I've had no problems using mine for deer- Barnaul 203 grain soft points are strong medicine for white tails. I've never had them travel more than a few yards before dropping when I do my part. But then again, the deer here in WI are BIG critters. The Mosin is an underestimated option as a hunting rifle, especially box-stock, in my opinion. You won't regret taking your Mosin along, I assure you.

    -Chris
     
  5. Kachok

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    Nothing wrong with using a Mosin for hunting if you don't mind it's utter lack of refinement. 7.62x54 is similar to the 308 win, some compare it to the 30-06 but I think that is a bit of a stretch, much closer to 308. Either way you look at it no doubt it is more then adequate for deer class game, I never personally used them in the woods mainly because I think a Mosin feels like a poorly designed boat paddle, and all my other bolt actions make it look silly in the accuracy department.
     
  6. jpwilly

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    Agree on most points. I've owned many mosins over the years including an nice SAKO M39. Even my Mossy ATR is a huge leap forward, for a hunting rifle anyway.
     
  7. theriflespeaks1863

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    Well, Kachok, beauty in the eye of the beholder, eh? :) Granted, I've done quite a bit of work on my Mosin in terms of the trigger and bolt operation. I've also refinished the stock, and to be honest, as a guy with a short LOP, I actually don't mind the stock design. When I have all of my hunting gear on, it's even better. I also had the fortune to get a Mosin with a near-pristine bore (and in a 91/30, too...can't believe my luck) so it shoots anything heavier than 160 grains into 1.5 MOA- I once got 4 shots under a quarter at 50 yards, which is the average hunting range in my kneck of the woods. Granted, I've also taken the time to sight it in and find the best loads for it which- in my experience- makes, or breaks, any Mosin- nice bore or not.

    The problem is, I'm broke as old kindling and couldn't even afford a plastic Remington excuse-for-a-bolt-gun (like the 770) at this stage. Being a college student in this day and age does that. ;) For that matter, I prefer my Mosin simply because I know that it is physically impossible for it to fail me; and where other guns fall victim to the weather here in WI during deer season- and I have seen it, trust me- the Mosin is just coming into its stride. I would trust the gun with my life, and I know that- with practice- anything out to 200 yards should fear for its well-being, and I only impose that limitation because it's the farthest I know I can shoot with repeatable ethical shots- not because the gun isn't up to the task. And while I have access to other guns that are far more 'refined,' I keep coming back to my Mosin.

    Maybe I just have simple tastes, I don't know. But I know this- this gun has taken 3 deer in my hands in half as many years, and being 20, I have quite a few more years in front of me; I haven't yet missed any shot I applied myself to, and the Mosin has brought meat home every time. Hopefully, if I have children, it will continue to do so for them.

    But, to each their own. I just personally feel that- in my experience and through the vetting of my individual gun- the Mosin's positive points far outweigh its negatives. For me, the gun just 'fits.' :)
     
  8. Kachok

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    ^ LOL yeah even as a non-Mosin guy I would opt for the Ruskie rifle over a 770. Yeah they are both really rough around the edges, and less then super accurate but at leased the Mosin has some class and history to it the 770 is just a turd! I picked one up once and immediately went to wash the 770 off my hands :D
    Never got a Mosin to do any better then about 2" at 100yd my five bolt actions all shoot under 3/4" easily, and three of them will give me one hole groups/cloverleafs with their pet loads when I do my part. But to be completely fair I will say that I do not handload 7.62x54R if I did I might have a totally different view of the Mosin's accuracy, I already have a 30-06 and a 308 no need for a 7.62x54 it would be really redundant.
    One day when I have a little extra cash laying around I might just grab a Mosin and give it the same accuracy treatment that I give my other rifles and see what it will do, I am sure I can top the performance of mil-surp ammo just not sure by how much. I would have to do something with the stock though that is one horribly uncomfortable rifle to shoot compared to my Savages, Winchester, Browning and Tikka, and yes I have a short LOP too (5'6")
     
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  9. Marty183

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    Who cares about refinement while hunting...It's no fashion show. All I care about in a hunting firearm is that it is reliable and accurate...My Mosin is both.

    It may be a boat anchor and a little long but she goes bang when I pull the trigger. Now to find some suitable cartridges for hunting...;)

    Now, I do like my AR's to look good....I know, I know...Double standard.

    Anyone here hunt with a Savage 110 in .308?
     
  10. 3212

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    Over 40 years with several hunting buddies..243 Win. model 70(its mine now),257 Roberts,35 Rem. pump,250-3000 Savage from the 1920's which killed a 7 point buck in 2004.They all took deer.My first deer rifle was a Marlin 336 in 30-30.
     
  11. Kachok

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    It would not be a 110 in 308 but rather a 10 or 11, all Savage short actions are two digit all long actions are three. I don't have the 11 in 308 but I do have two Savages a 110 in 30-06 and an 11 in 270 WSM both are great. My 308 is a new (FN) Winchester 70 Featherweight.
    Refinement is more then just looks, a smoother action will cycle faster/more reliably if a follow up shot is needed, a lighter more compact rifle is easier to carry in the brush, and a better trigger is always nice on those long shots. Try raising up a 4 foot long Mosin in a small shooting house without bumping anything and you will see what I mean :D
     
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  13. hang fire

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    Thuty thuty Winchesters and Marlins
     
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    Kachok #130

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    I resemble that remark.

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  15. Kachok

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    Sorry but to impress me with a Mosin you would have to blueprint the action, I have shot too many of them with sticky bolts.
    Nice accessories though.
     
  16. T.R.

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    Overall most popular are the Remington pump guns in 30-06. But there are always a couple 30-30 carbines in camp.

    TR
     
  17. hang fire

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    It came chopped and beat up prebubbaed for $25.00, I then scouted to final configuration.

    Have three M39 Finns, (two like new) but this 1937 Tula is hands down favorite.

    In this video, one can see how sticky the bolt is, not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Z1-ucpPMg
     
  18. savanahsdad

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    Savage did not make a short action intell the late 1990's my 7mm-08 mod 16 was the 2nd year they made short actions, so there are 1000's of 110's in 308 out there ,
     
  19. savanahsdad

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    New list for this year,

    Savage mod 111 in 270win "one of my son's got his first buck with it "
    Ruger Deerfield 44mag
    Marlin 1894 in 44mag
    Savage mod 16 in 7mm-08
    Savage mod 11 in 7mmWSM
    Ruger BlackHawk 44mag
    Olympic K8 Target Match in 25WSSM (AR15 clone)
     
  20. toiville2feathers

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    Deer hunting for use is a deep rooted tradition. and a bigger holiday than Christmas or New Years. Its a big neighborhood reunion. All the family comes whether they hunt or not. Our deer camp is a 40 X 56 foot pole shed that most of the year serves as our equipment shed. But during deer season it becomes the focal gathering point for deer season. There are 3 neighboring farms and the families have hunted together since before deer seasons started Our great grand fathers started to hunt together and now 5 generations later we still are hunting together. between the 3 farms we have in excess of 12,000 acres to hunt. Quality Deer Management is practiced now going on 9 years and we are seeing some excellent results.
    There are 14 hunters in the group with the following rifles;
    Model 54 Win in 270 x 1
    model 70 win Pre 64 270 x 5
    model 79 Win compact 7MM-08 x2
    Model 88 Win 284 x 2
    Model 88 Win 358 X 1
    Model 100 Win 308 x1
    Mauser 98 8MM X 57 x 1
    Browning BAR 270 win X 1
    We are pretty well sold on Winchesters and 270 calibers. For back up guns there are a couple old 1984's win in 30WCF and Model 95 win in 30-06. But they are seldom used. If they are used its usually because its a novelty. The real fun comes after season is over and we cut up the deer and make sausage. That gets to be a fun time
     
  21. Andrew Leigh

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    My side of the pond;

    Sako .270
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    Mauser .308
    CZ 30-06
    CZ 6.5X55mm
     
  22. shafter

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    The only reason I don't use mine is because of the safety. It's hard to manipulate quietly. The rifles I've used over the years are Winchester 94, Marlin 336, Savage 99, and a Rossi 92 in 357.
     
  23. Chris-bob

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    Mossberg 4x4 .300win mag
    Ruger 77 7mm mag
    Ruger 77 .243WSSM
    Rem 770 7mm-06
    Win 70 .338 win mag
    Occasionally a SAS .308 comes along.
     
  24. JRs12Valve

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    I'll use my .45-70 Marlin, or Remington 700 in .308.

    Dad uses a 700 BDL in 7mm Remington Magnum, or a Winchester 1876 in .45-70.
     
  25. savanahsdad

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    time to get this started again, that time of year again ,some of us have not gone hunting yet but some of you are all done , ya see new fun guns at camp this year?
     
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