Dianne DeGette (D, CO) to Introduce Magazine Ban in the House

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NelsErik,
Are those Congress Critters, or just random staffers (or worse yet, random anonymous sources)? It looks like FOIA scan of an email, but without a source, well, those in the email chain could just be one of us ;). The supposed "bipartisan" support sounds incredibly half-hearted, at best.

My congress people say " inaction is not an option"
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There isn't much need for their positions if they aren't passing laws, so don't hold that against them. The goal is to direct their focus to areas where passing laws can actually accomplish something.

CONTACT YOUR REPS!

TCB
 
NelsErik said:
The deal has already been made in the House. The Republicans are going to cave...
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Any chance that this legislation will be hidden in the Hurricane Sandy relief bill that Republican politicians from the northeast are all up in arms about? Boehner caught a lot of flak from Christie and King because the relief bill was held up. Could this legislation be the real reason that it was?
 
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... if there was confiscation, there would have to be fair compensation under the 5th Amendment.
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have to be fair compensation?

According to several proclamations by anti-gun politicians, under an assault weapons confiscation in the U.S., privately owned assault weapons would be treated as contraband forfeit to the state without compensation.

If they have their way, there will not be a buy-out of lawfully owned weapons as was done in Australia in 1996, when 640,000 registered semi-auto and pump-action long guns were ordered turned in by the Howard government. Aussies who complied were treated as lawabiding citizens with legally owned property and were compensated with a fair market price. That OZ program cost over a billion dollars in a tax that hurt health funds. Just compensation to American gun owners in a buy-out would be tens of billions not findable in the current economy.

Bottom line: some of our antis have already promised that banned weapons would be treated as contraband to be forfeit to the state without compensation.
 
And I've to go take a walk to get my back in line after reading that slant in reporting... "Modified" to accept more ammo?? Reps bending over?
 
I have sent money to the NRA-ILA and written to my senators. Unfortunately the only senator I heard back from was using poser catch-phrases like "I respect the 2A but..."

I'm hoping a ban doesn't pass, but at the same time mentally preparing for how my purchasing plans will change should one pass. Already have plans for handguns, not sure what I'll do about long guns, though.
 
Laughing at the reference of "fair market price" given to Australian gun owners.

What a crock.
 
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I don't doubt that it was introduced, but all I can find are repostings of the same Salon story.
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I can't find any record of any bills being introduced in the House today. Not one. I think most of the day was spent getting the speaker reelected. These folks really don't work a lot of overtime if they can help it.
 
I would be more inclined to believe that they just haven't been updated onto the website yet, but I honestly don't know either way.
 
RX-178 said:
I would be more inclined to believe that they just haven't been updated onto the website yet, but I honestly don't know either way.
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You could be right. Still, in the days of the internet and instant news, you would think it would be somewhere. Tomorrow will tell.
 
It seems that the Salon article is a republication of a press release on DeGette's website. The website says that the official name is/would be 'High Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act'
 
Check www.thomas.gov tomorrow. Thomas flipped from the 112th Congress to the 113th Congress at noon today. Members of Congress just drop bills in the hopper and they get posted to the internet the next day (usually).
 
Anyone else feel like this is the bill to beat?
If this doesn't pass, then Feinsteins's doesn't have a chance, no matter how much they water it down.

Combine this with the fact that many school districts are taking the advice of the NRA by working more closely with the police and some are even considering allowing teachers to Concealed Carry, as well as the enormous pro-gun/anti-anti-gun grassroots movement that has been born on the internet, then it really looks like we have a shot.

This is the Battle of the Bulge, folks. If we get a resounding victory here, then it could very well be the death blow to the gun-grabber movement. If recent events aren't enough to sway the public into giving up their rights, then nothing is.

As long as we remain vigilant and let our reps know that supporting a bill like this is political suicide, we can get through this.
 
You folks may think Colorado is bad but these CRETINS here in Illinois have already passed multiple bills out of the Senate Safety Committee to the full senate that, if passed, will even ban pump shotguns & rifles, ANY rifle with a detachable magazine, INCLUDING the Remington 7400.
This is all being pushed "downstate" by the #@$%&!! in Chicago!!
 
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Combine this with the fact that many school districts are taking the advice of the NRA by working more closely with the police and some are even considering allowing teachers to Concealed Carry, as well as the enormous pro-gun/anti-anti-gun grassroots movement that has been born on the internet, then it really looks like we have a shot.

This is the Battle of the Bulge, folks. If we get a resounding victory here, then it could very well be the death blow to the gun-grabber movement. If recent events aren't enough to sway the public into giving up their rights, then nothing is
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It would be quite ironic (and justly so) if the Gun Movement (whatever that is) ends up ahead of the game after all this. It'll be the first time the country has reacted properly to a firearms-centric tragedy. As far as a death blow, they were pretty much dead already (IIRC, the Brady Campaign spent a whopping $5000 on the last election), but they will never truly go away. The best we can do is beat them back to the irrelevance of the fringe parties no one takes seriously. Force them to hook up with the Green Party to get their support (and I mean no offense to the Green Party :))

This is all being pushed "downstate" by the #@$%&!! in Chicago!!
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Any marches planned? Email/letter writing campaigns? They can only pull this off if people let them (granted, it's harder to fight back in Chicago, but not impossible--even there). I remember the AWB your governor tried to slip through under the radar some months back--it was caught, and firmly squashed. No reason a similar response wouldn't work here as well (especially since that law would seem to blatantly violate a SCOTUS ruling)

TCB
 
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HDCamel said:
Anyone else feel like this is the bill to beat?
If this doesn't pass, then Feinsteins's doesn't have a chance, no matter how much they water it down.
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Magazine limits and background checks poll well with the general public, so those are the bills to defeat.

Unless substantially changed from the versions introduced in the last (112th) Congress, both bills will contain horrendously sneaky language that make them far more dangerous than they appear on the surface.

The previous mag limit bill would have made it "unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device." The possession of previously owned mags would have been grandfathered, but there was no exception for transfers of previously owned mags. In short, you could keep the mags you own, but not sell them and they would presumably by forfeited to the government as contraband when you died.

The previous background check bill would have extended "Brady Law background check procedures to all sales and transfers of firearms." Ominously, the bill includes limited and specific exceptions (at certain shooting ranges and competitions and when hunting) from the background check requirements for the "temporary transfer of possession without transfer of title." Since you can't have an exception to a rule without having a rule, it would appear that the intent of the bill is to generally require background checks for temporary transfers of possession, such as letting a buddy shoot one of your guns on your property.
 
barnbwt - I don't know if there are any marches planned but I have been trying to call the legislators for my area. All I get are recordings or no answer. The House of Reps. is due to reconvene about 5 p.m. Sunday the 6th.
From what I understand, they are being flooded with calls against this despicable action.
 
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