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Did anyone look at any sporting guns?

Discussion in 'SHOT Show Coverage' started by oneounceload, Jan 21, 2011.

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  1. oneounceload

    oneounceload member

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    Or was everyone's focus on nothing but black/tactical/HD/SD/camo stuff?

    Would be a shame if that was true.................there are more hunters and target shooters that folks worried about zombie hordes......

    JMO

    Color me disappointed
     
  2. Zanad

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    there was the marlin booth...

    and a sharps booth among others.
     
  3. Justin

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    I'll be honest.

    I don't know if I could really competently cover a lot of hunting arms because it's not really an area I know a whole lot about.
     
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    There's really just so much you can say about AR's, AK's, and 1911's; and much more than that is being said. I own and love all the above mentioned guns but really lament the dearth of coverage of non tacticool arms.

    gary
     
  5. Sam1911

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    Cimmaron: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568166 (If you think that's too tactical you need your head examined.)
    Marlin: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568403
    Ruger: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568706
    Taurus: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568632
    Freedom Arms: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568161
    Blaser: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568171
    Savage: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=568377
    Etc.

    Not sure what new things there are to say about bolt rifles, lever guns, and six-shooters, but hey, whatever floats your boat -- they've got it there! ;)
     
  6. TexasRifleman

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    I took a ton of pictures of "eye candy" sporting arms, but honestly there doesn't seem to be a lot of new product development in that area.

    SHOT is for most vendors to show their new wares and the traditional hunting rifle guys "new" products for the most part seemed to be very subtle changes to existing models; wood finish, maybe some engraving differences etc.

    I did see some beautiful firearms, and I did add a Sauer Mannlicher stocked rifle to my bucket list.

    http://www.thehighroad.org//showthread.php?t=568461
     
  7. biggameballs

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    I was personally wondering what Browning did with their BAR line as a shot show special this year. Last year they did the Zenith line and the all camo LW stalker. I'm going to be purchasing a BAR and wanted to hold off to see if they came out with anything that would get my interest this year. I was pretty dissapointed to see nothing about them on here.
     
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    "SHOT is for most vendors to show their new wares and the traditional hunting rifle guys "new" products for the most part seemed to be very subtle changes to existing models; wood finish, maybe some engraving differences etc."

    All of those EBRs look the same to me. :) Change the barrel length, change the color, add a bipod or quad rail. Ooooh, a 2.5-point sling. ;)
     
  9. TexasRifleman

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    I walked by their booth and they didn't appear to have much BAR wise. I saw 3 BARs on a rack. 1 Safari and a couple of Long Tracs. Their website has no BARs on their "SHOT Special" page either.

    The booth was of course VERY heavy with their shotgun line and surprisingly they seemed to be pushing the little auto .22's, they were prominently displayed.

    I have a BAR Safari and I love it, so I was disappointed that the BAR was sort of back in the corner on one little stand.

    http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/shotshow.asp?catalog_=B&offset=0

    My shotgun knowledge is pretty much zero other than Auto 5's :) so I didn't even look. I wouldn't know what I was looking at for the most part. Personally I was hoping for a reintroduction of the Sweet 16...
     
  10. jerkface11

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    Did Uberti have a booth?
     
  11. TexasRifleman

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    Yes but I just never got there. Gotta walk faster next year.
     
  12. biggameballs

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    Thanks Texas. Looks like I'll just be going with the LW stalker in 308. I emailed them about the Zenith line and said I really liked the product minus the hidious side plates on the receiver and they said be patient and someday they may make what I want so I thought that maybe this year they would've done more offerings in the Zenith line but I guess not.
     
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    Was hoping to see what, if any, new things might have been coming forth from the Fausti sisters and Beretta's A400, among some other things
     
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    Remington has a new shotgun that is impressive. I think I read about it on gunsamerica
     
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    If you haven’t ever been to a SHOT Show you can’t imagine the size. Some years ago I took the total number of booths and hours the show was open, deducted 25% of the time to adjust for walking, and determined that if visited all of the booths I could spend about 5 minutes or less in each one, and this didn’t take into consideration potty breaks, meals, meetings, and whatever else. Also 25% for walking time is very conservative. What we have here is not an ordinary gun show, but one that encompasses most of the entire firearms and accessory industry.

    Now I am sure there were so-called “sporting arms” exhibitors there, but a lot of them would be smaller ones, and if the focus this year was on tactical stuff the reason is they substantially outsold more traditional guns and accessories during the recent past. I’m sure I don’t have to explain why.

    In all industries markets follows the money, and that is exactly what is happening here. Note for example the difference between product lines being shown by companies such as Smith & Wesson and it’s M&P line, Remington, Ruger, Mossberg, Savage, and many others – from what they’re catalogs showed in past years.

    Obviously traditional sporting arms are far from dead, but they are in decline so manufacturers are putting most of their design & development money where they think future returns will be the best. The SHOT Show, which represents what is happening within the industry will always represent best in what’s new according to current trends.

    Hopefully no one will mistake my observations as some sort of rant against traditional firearms, as I have always been a firm supporter of “blued steel and fine wood,” but times change, and I bare no malice toward polymer and stainless.

    As Ben Franklin said, “If we don’t hang together we will assuredly be hung separately.”
     
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    OF - I have been to the one in Orlando - but then I barely spent time at the EBR/tacticool places as MY interest is in sporting guns and a little in CCW pistols.

    Remember, traditional hunters buy more ammo than anyone else and while other areas are growing, there are by and far more folks who only hunt with guns than anything else in this country
     
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    I am not disagreeing or arguing here, but if you have statistics that support this point, I'd sure like to see them.

    I know hunters who haven't bought a new box of ammo in more than a year. And they're active, successful hunters, too.

    I know target shooters who shoot multiple tens of thousands of rounds a year. One IPSC shooter might very realistically shoot more ammo in a year than 1,500 hunters who average one box of Remington Core-Lokts.

    Of course, there are a lot of hunters out there, so it is possible.

    If there are good data on this, I'd love to see them.
     
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    Yeah I would have to question that too. Many of the hunters I know buy one, 2 boxes of ammo a year while the folks shooting ARs are buying by the case. The deer hunters sight in with 8-10 rounds, hunt with 5-7, then call it a year. They also tend to be low volume gun buyers, a couple of rifles and they keep them forever. At least the hunters I'm around regularly.

    Now I will believe that there are MORE people in the hunting/sporting camp than in the tactical camp but it's pretty obvious from looking at the SHOT Show displays where the real money is.

    These companies wouldn't all be running to the EBR/whatever table if there wasn't a pile of cash there.
     
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    Aw I'm interested in their .30-30 rolling block but can't find one anywhere online except their catalog.
     
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    They're all sporting guns, If you know what I mean.
     
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    There was a report with data from Winchester, Remington and Federal showing that hunting ammo was the largest selling segment, especially in the shotgun arena. Remember, most serious shooters - whether handgun, shotgun or rifle tend to reload
     
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    Did you guys get SIG?
     
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    I never even saw them, and couldn't even tell you which floor they were on. I especially wanted to get there after talking to Kimber, as they are one of the main competitors for the Solo Carry according to the Kimber rep.
     
  24. Justin

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    The SIG booth was across the aisle from Ruger. I didn't get a chance to drop in there.

    The most serious shooters I know are all practical shooting competitors. Among the people I know, the hunters tend to be low-volume shooters unless they're also into forms of shooting other than competition.
     
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