Dirt bag ruined this morning's hunt.....!

[Art Eatman]

I've waded through all four pages of this thread. Wish I hadn't. Several things are definitely off-putting: First is that it doesn't matter what the laws are in Alabama or Texas. They're irrelevant.

Next is that it doesn't matter how any of us regard feral hogs. More irrelevancy. Sure, my own opinion of them is, "Hey, whatever ya wanna do." But that's irrelevant to this thread.

bswiv cited the Florida legal controls about the use of a WMA. Those are the only things relevant to his story. As near as I can tell from reading, when hunting in a WMA, you treat a hog the same as a deer. What's not really needed here is a Philadelphia Lawyer's weaseling around with twisting the meaning of words about what's wildlife and what isn't.

Whether or not we approve, the law is the law is the law. If you don't want to be forced to look upon a feral hog in the same manner as you would a deer, I suggest not hunting in a place where that rule is in place. If you don't like the restriction against clearing brush around your stand, don't hunt in that area.

And last I heard, it is morally, ethically and legally correct to report a crime.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

For the life of me, I don't know why it ruined your hunt. If I was you and thought I righteously reported bad guys, I would be on Cloud 9. There is no bag limit on bad guys and they are quite elusive most of the time. Be happy with your accomplishment. Now why you didn't continue hunting happily the rest of the day is beyond me.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

No crime had been commited at the time it was reported. No crime was commited until the shooter left the area. That is my problem with the whole scenario.

 

[HunterBear71]

If you read the original story, no crime had been commited at the time of the confrontation. The poster has established to my satisfaction that abandonment would be a crime. However, these hunters were still in the area. The poster later claims that the hunters admitted during questioning that they intended to abandon the animal. It doesn't make sense that hunters confronted by an angry vigilante would admit to an intent to commit a crime. It just sounds like the poster lost his temper and confronted what he considered to be unethical hunters. The gentlemen had yet to violate any law.

 

[bswiv]

The guy who shot it said he had shot it "last night". Offered that it might still be good...............but that he did not want it.

This was at near on 11 in the morning and it was laying where it fell the night before. Not gutted!

Fact is he abandoned it.

Illegal......period.

 

[RockinU]

And you did not read....... It's illegal on the WMA. Not private land and not land with a certified problem.

If there is one there, it is a problem, certificate or not.

 

[RockinU]

Not exactly what I would like to see happen and not likely to happen

I assure you that they have a negative impact on game species. Areas with high hog infestations are seeing quail go by the way side, deer numbers will decrease (I have seen first hand what happens to a fawn that hogs lay into), they can and do out compete most everything. They are a plague, wish for them at your own peril.

 

[RockinU]

There are things to do with meat if you yourself do not want it... there are donation programs everywhere... Drop off the animal it is processed and distributed at no cost to you... what is so difficult about that? does it take to much work to gut it and drop it off at some point in the day? really?

Not sure about anywhere else, but in Texas the donation programs will not take wild hog. Unless it has been first tested (while alive) for diseases, or I think penned for some period of observation before killed. Not sure on that last part, but I know they won't take the meat of a field killed hog.

 

[bejay]

apperently wild hogs are considered wildlife according to the below link.
http://www.myfwc.com/WILDLIFEHABITATS/SpeciesInfo_Hog.htm
wich I never wasted my time reading this thread either.

 

[Phone Guy]

California has a high population of wild (Feral) Hogs. They are treated a a game animal. You are required to purchase tags and many people I know pay for the opportunity to kill one. I know we are not talking about California but we are talking about breaking the law.
Some states allow you to kill 5 deer some allow 1 per day. In TN if you shoot on your own property you can kill 4 per season with out a License or tag. In California you can kill 2 max. If I saw someone kill a deer with out a tag I am going to be the first to drop a dime on him. Wildlife including hogs are managed according to the what the Fish and Game cops and biologist decide is best for the area. If you live in an area that allows you to kill a hog and leave it then more power to you. Obviously the OP doesn't.

If you come to where I hunt and break the law I will make sure you get caught. In my eyes you are shooting my animals.

 

[schlockinz]

CA also pays sharpshooters from New Zealand to take care of hog problems (or at least one).

I call that poor management and poor uses of taxes.

 

[Fryerpower]

In TN if you shoot on your own property you can kill 4 per season with out a License or tag.

Tennessee:

"Private Lands
Open year round, except in holdings on Catoosa and South Cherokee where the season is open with the statewide deer seasons. Dogs prohibited. No limit, either sex. During statewide deer seasons, only weapons legal for hunting deer may be used for hunting feral hogs."

http://www.state.tn.us/twra/feralhog.html

Also:

"Publicly Owned Lands
Season open during scheduled white-tailed deer hunts unless otherwise specified. Dogs prohibited. No limit, either sex. Big South Fork National River and Recreation Area, also open January 20 - February 28, 2010."

If you come to where I hunt and break the law I will make sure you get caught. In my eyes you are shooting my animals.

Absolutely agree!

-Jim

 

[Phone Guy]

Tennessee:

"Private Lands
Open year round, except in holdings on Catoosa and South Cherokee where the season is open with the statewide deer seasons. Dogs prohibited. No limit, either sex. During statewide deer seasons, only weapons legal for hunting deer may be used for hunting feral hogs."

http://www.state.tn.us/twra/feralhog.html

Also:

"Publicly Owned Lands
Season open during scheduled white-tailed deer hunts unless otherwise specified. Dogs prohibited. No limit, either sex. Big South Fork National River and Recreation Area, also open January 20 - February 28, 2010."

I was refering to deer in that sentence. I was giving an example of how different states and areas manage their game. This may not be exactly correct either, I was quoting another hunter from TN.

 

[Fryerpower]

Thanks for the clarification.

Tennessee Deer:
http://state.tn.us/twra/pdfs/wallet.pdf

The state is managed in 3 areas based on deer population.

It seems like every state handles Hogs differently. Some treat them as a full blown destructive pest and encourage you to kill everyone you see. Some states call them a pest, but treat them as a managed big game species.

Just follow the rules people! If you don't like the rules, follow the process and get the rules changed!

-Jim

 

[dubbleA]

Quote:
There are things to do with meat if you yourself do not want it... there are donation programs everywhere... Drop off the animal it is processed and distributed at no cost to you... what is so difficult about that? does it take to much work to gut it and drop it off at some point in the day? really?

Not sure about anywhere else, but in Texas the donation programs will not take wild hog. Unless it has been first tested (while alive) for diseases, or I think penned for some period of observation before killed. Not sure on that last part, but I know they won't take the meat of a field killed hog.
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The last quote is true. A family member has a helicopter service and one of the things he does is hog erradication. So far this year, August was the best month with appx 3000 feral hogs killed. 99.9 percent of the hogs killed during erradicating wind up feeding coyotes, buzzards and other wildlife because of the Texas health laws.