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ConstitutionCowboy
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If you come to my house WITHOUT a gun, I'm liable to not admit you. It's tough enough defending ones self without having to defend a house full of guests.
Woody
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Lost Sheep
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So, what about the Christmas present?
Have you ever taken your Father-in-Law or Mother shooting? Have you sounded them out about if they would accept a gun as a present?
An invitation to the range would allow you to suss out your F-i-L's attitude towards guns or towards YOU with a gun; and broach the subject of a home defense firearm in general.
I, myself would never give a gun, power saw or radio-controlled airplane to someone whose attitude towards the gift I had not verified in advance. Waste of money, otherwise. No philosophical question to it.
The script in my head would go something like this:
Dad, I am going to the range for some practice. Would you like to come with me? I think you would enjoy the experience.
On another occasion, I might open the subject with some questions about the altercation at their house, the duties the police have (and the limitations of what they can do, response time and such),
By the way, was there any discussion between you and them at the tie you started carrying? Did either of them have thoughts on the matter that they shared with you?
Good luck.
Lost Sheep
afterthought: Is it possible that there was another guest at the dinner (or another, perhaps sudden, circumstance) that induced them to ask you not to carry this one occasion?
Have you been to their house before, carrying? Were they OK with it then? Did something change their minds in the meantime?
Have you ever taken your Father-in-Law or Mother shooting? Have you sounded them out about if they would accept a gun as a present?
An invitation to the range would allow you to suss out your F-i-L's attitude towards guns or towards YOU with a gun; and broach the subject of a home defense firearm in general.
I, myself would never give a gun, power saw or radio-controlled airplane to someone whose attitude towards the gift I had not verified in advance. Waste of money, otherwise. No philosophical question to it.
The script in my head would go something like this:
Dad, I am going to the range for some practice. Would you like to come with me? I think you would enjoy the experience.
On another occasion, I might open the subject with some questions about the altercation at their house, the duties the police have (and the limitations of what they can do, response time and such),
By the way, was there any discussion between you and them at the tie you started carrying? Did either of them have thoughts on the matter that they shared with you?
Good luck.
Lost Sheep
afterthought: Is it possible that there was another guest at the dinner (or another, perhaps sudden, circumstance) that induced them to ask you not to carry this one occasion?
Have you been to their house before, carrying? Were they OK with it then? Did something change their minds in the meantime?
I'm with Sam1911 on this one.
I would not have gone.
What is your stepdad smoking????????
There's no way I'd leave my gun in the car. Especially if they're having trouble in the neighborhood. That's setting you up to have your car broken into and your gun stolen.
She married him. Her problem, not yours.
I would not have gone.
What is your stepdad smoking????????
There's no way I'd leave my gun in the car. Especially if they're having trouble in the neighborhood. That's setting you up to have your car broken into and your gun stolen.
She married him. Her problem, not yours.
stonecutter2
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A disagreement over 2nd amendment rights with family is not the way I want to spend a holiday.
You chose wisely.
If I were you, I would bring it up to discuss at a later time, particularly the snide remark about Baghdad. That's just hurtful, like you're delusional or something. Describe how you felt when a criminal accosted you, and why you want to defend yourself.
I would NOT cause a huge family rift over this. Losing contact with family sucks, big time. It is their choice regarding whether people carry in their home. They told you their opinion of it all, so return the same in kind and agree to disagree if necessary.
You chose wisely.
If I were you, I would bring it up to discuss at a later time, particularly the snide remark about Baghdad. That's just hurtful, like you're delusional or something. Describe how you felt when a criminal accosted you, and why you want to defend yourself.
I would NOT cause a huge family rift over this. Losing contact with family sucks, big time. It is their choice regarding whether people carry in their home. They told you their opinion of it all, so return the same in kind and agree to disagree if necessary.
Zach S
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While I can see where you're coming from, I cant say I agree with the jerk and jackass comment. Unlike smoking, my concealed handgun has no effect on anyone.
I cant stand briefs. The last time I wore briefs, I sat down wrong and my voice got higher for the rest of the day. I hate briefs so much I dont want any in my house. And anyone who would wear them in my house is a total jerk and jackass...
Now, if I had made that request, and you preferred briefs, would you go commando for the day, leave your undewear in the car, or, since it has no effect on me whatsoever, say "okay" and wear your tighty whiteys anyway?
Surly
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The best part of all of this is that the 'alleged' 2A supporters here suddenly start calling me and my kind that put principles first 'paranoid' for not wanting to give into an unreasonable demand.
I didn't choose my family or else they wouldn't have been a bunch of dems. I choose and stand behind my principles and my family won't get in the way of them.
I didn't choose my family or else they wouldn't have been a bunch of dems. I choose and stand behind my principles and my family won't get in the way of them.
It's their house and their rules. Their rules in their home were not unreasonable. Your 2A rights stop at their doorstep. If they were bothered or uncomfortable with being around firearms, then IMHO you should not have taken it personally and should have had respected their rights and their home.
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If you asked me, I would just not go to your house... Problem solved and no one's rights have been trampled on and no one has been disrespected...
redneck2
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So, when you go into the local grade school or court house you still carry? After all, it's your right and you're by god gonna do it!
I see this as no different from any other gun free zone
My wife and step son got into a squabble over something minor four years ago. Even though they only live a couple of miles from us, we haven't seen our granddaughter since. If something like that is so important to you, then have at it. But, you're a sad individual.
Sam1911
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Except with the courthouse, and sometimes school too, you are forced to be there.
Someone's house? You are not forced to be there at all and not being there does no one any harm.
Pressuring someone that they must attend you but must give up something important to the while they do is some really dark emotional blackmail.
They can choose to make their requests and that's fine. But to allow even tacit emotional pressure to force you to attend and comply is bitterly wrong.
It doesn't really have to be about guns. Is is a vile and barefaced disrespect. A dominance thing. Ugly. Really ugly.
We have beat this topic to death time and time again with little change on either side. I don't see this thread going anywhere but in circles so we are done here.
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