do punisher grips make your 1911 "nerdy"...?

[Zach S]

Tacky, but I kinda like them. Same with the infidel script on AR15s.

I think Zoogster pointed out one reason I wouldnt want them. Skulls on a SD gun probably wouldnt go over very well in court. The nature of the Punisher character probably wouldnt help. Someone else mentioned something along the lines that its stupid to worry about something like that, but even stupider that we should have to.

 

[ArmedBear]

And yes, SuperNaut, it was the perfect comparison. You couldn't get more apples to apples.

Uh, professional sports fandom is so commonplace in the Western Hemisphere and Europe that it fades into the noise. Half the cars on the road have some sports-related sticker or stickers on them, at least around here.

A big skull on your pistol, that you spent time and money putting there, does not fade into the noise in the same way.

Have any of you ever been on a jury? Hired an employee? Been in any situation where you had to size someone up based on very limited information?

It sure doesn't sound like it.

(BTW my jury experience makes me lean towards choosing a trial by a judge, if it ever comes to that. That's how much I trust "my peers" with judging me, now that I've seen what it looks like firsthand.)

its stupid to worry about something like that, but even stupider that we should have to.

And I'd agree. But the world is what it is, not what we wish it to be.

I often wear torn, baggy shorts and an old t-shirt. But not to a job interview or a meeting with someone who will be sizing me up. That's just life in the big city.

Again, put on whatever grips you want. Just be aware of the implications of putting a big skull on a defensive pistol, because they're real.

XD, SuperNaut, there's really no reason to be indignant here. I am not attacking your deeply-held personal moral beliefs or anything. If it feels like I am, check yourself, not me.

 

[Disaster]

I don't see any problem with them on a "collector's" piece but I wouldn't want them on a gun that would be used for self defense. I see all kinds of gaudy stuff on people's guns...gold fill...mother of pearl...but to each his own. I prefer mine in black on black.

 

[SuperNaut]

SuperNaut, there's really no reason to be indignant here. I am not attacking your deeply-held personal moral beliefs or anything. If it feels like I am, check yourself, not me.

I'm okay man, I'm just making conversation. Honestly, I think everyone is wound a little too tight ITT. It's not just here, I've noticed it in a couple other fora I frequent. I think gas prices and nature's fury has got everyone a little twitchy.

 

[XDKingslayer]

Honestly, I think everyone is wound a little too tight ITT.

Yep. So many people here need to unclench.

 

[USMCDK]

I would have to say it SCREAMS geek. I don't know I am the type that likes the rail mount stuff and sight mods personnally. but putting custom design grips just makes it look un-authentic IMHO

 

[made2cut]

My eight year old son would love it if I bought a set for one of my 1911's. I think they are kinda cool being a Punisher fan but would have to pass myself. If you like them I say go for it . I just find it interesting how many people participated in this thread.

 

[XDKingslayer]

Oh they'll blow a nut here when I finally get those twin .45s with the Hitman logo engraved on the slide. God forbid I get caught by Johnny Law with one of those on my person.

No. They won't be Hardballers...

 

[EHL]

Armed Bear

Again, put on whatever grips you want. Just be aware of the implications of putting a big skull on a defensive pistol, because they're real.

XD, SuperNaut, there's really no reason to be indignant here. I am not attacking your deeply-held personal moral beliefs or anything. If it feels like I am, check yourself, not me.

Sorry Armed Bear, you are coming across as if you are attacking people's beliefs. If you feel like you need to have pink grips on so nobody thinks you're a killer, than so be it. It's obvious you are a bit concerned, if not paronoid, about getting railroaded in court for a self defense shooting. Valid concern, but I think a little over exaggerated in this case. THe OP wasn't even about SD carry, but whether they were "nerdy" or not. Some guys say it was and others didn't. My point is, I bet any attorney could find things about you that would be more inflammatory than ANY grips you could find on the market. Maybe you reload your own ammo and have several hundreds if not thousands of rounds in your basement? Maybe you carry Ranger T's in your gun or worse yet the "evil Black Talons"!! Maybe you have taken "too many self defense courses" because you wanted to learn to shoot how to shoot a BG. Maybe you lowered your trigger pull to 4.25 lbs and that is "too low" (hair trigger)and hense, not safe.......... Point is, your opinion about how to stay in the good graces of some zealous District Attorney, is duly noted. I seriously doubt that you or many others in this forum are above scrutiny should a DA with an agenda cross paths with any of you. You think having little Bo-beep grips is gonna save you from a zealous DA or an Anti-gun jury that's looking to make a statement? Trust me, they WILL find something. Living in fear for that scenario of the "what if I get scary DA who will prosecute me" and having that govern your EVERY decision in life, is not a life worth living. Just my opinion though.

 

[Dope]

Do it! Of course, I am a huge Punisher nerd too. I have several hundred Punisher comics (many dupes of course) dating back to my early teens. If I ever buy a 1911 I will definitely get Punisher grips.

The REAL question here is: which logo? The new one (Garth Ennis if I remember), or one of the older ones? Tough call.

Be sure to post pics.

Dope

 

[DougDubya]

Gee, ArmedBear - what part of "NOT A CARRY/SELF DEFENSE PISTOL" is not understood here?

 

[loboloco]

I'm glad to see that more than a few of you have some common sense, as well as a sense of humor. It also makes me glad to see that some of you have taken the time to read the OP as well as all subsequent posts, instead of just jumping in on the bottom of the list and putting your $.02. Every other thread I have added a post to, I have been sure to read all opinions before adding my own. After all..."Tis better to remain silent and let people think you a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right..." -Aesop's Fables

 

[conw]

That is a BAD idea for a carry/SD gun. Looks awful in the eyes of a jury. I mean, even if they have no idea what the Punisher comic is, it looks bad; if they do have an idea what it is (OR IF THE PROSECUTOR INTRODUCES A PUNISHER COMIC)...you're screwed

EDIT: Ok, not a SD/carry pistol. I just saw that. I'm going to let my post stand though, because my opinion on the matter is very strong, even if in your specific case it's not relevant.

 

[conw]

EHL wrote:

My point is, I bet any attorney could find things about you that would be more inflammatory than ANY grips you could find on the market. Maybe you reload your own ammo and have several hundreds if not thousands of rounds in your basement? Maybe you carry Ranger T's in your gun or worse yet the "evil Black Talons"!! Maybe you have taken "too many self defense courses" because you wanted to learn to shoot how to shoot a BG. Maybe you lowered your trigger pull to 4.25 lbs and that is "too low" (hair trigger)and hense, not safe.......... Point is, your opinion about how to stay in the good graces of some zealous District Attorney, is duly noted. I seriously doubt that you or many others in this forum are above scrutiny should a DA with an agenda cross paths with any of you.

Thing is, a good defense attorney can easily shoot down the various examples you posted. A skull on a gun that was used in "Self-defense"...well, that is just going to evoke a visceral reaction in certain people, unlike the cerebral reaction to "black talon rounds" that were paraded in the media about 15 years ago, and can easily be explained away by a defense attorney.

To each his own, but I don't want to ADD to any ammo against me in a court room. Keeping a stockpile of ammo, using effective rounds, and reloading all have a practical side and, again, are very defensible.

Just ask "sm"...he has been on several juries, I believe, and feels strongly about this kind of stuff.

I'd hate to be in the courtroom when the DA pulled this:

 

[Panzom]

Some of the people on here are a little too paranoid. If at 3am some asshat brakes down you door waving a gun around and you blow him away no one is going to care about your grips. Now if bad guys all round your town start showing up dead then they might start looking for a "Punisher" copycat.

 

[BamBam-31]

Welcome to THR, Panzom.

By and large, gunowners are a somewhat cautious lot. Some more than others, eh?

 

[Hawk]

In my specific area I have no concerns over a run-amok DA at present. A good shoot is a good shoot regardless of grip decoration, Harry Callahan quotes engraved on the slide, a pinned grip safety, disabled firing pin block, 1.5 # trigger and ninja ammo.

I'm even less concerned over a civil aftermath. No money.

Attorneys that operate on contingency are not the same as those that work pro bono. The liklihood that a perp's family will be independently wealthy is small. I am not a public empolyee where the taxpayers might pick up the tab and the insurance sucks.

I do tend to believe we worry overmuch about civil suits - if you're O.J. or have or are employed by someone with deep pockets, yeah. But few attorneys will take a contingency case based on future earnings or one's chances at powerball. Around here they can't take your house or car anyway so that leaves a 5 pound sack of jelly beans and a parrot with no feathers. The loss of either one wouldn't distress me.

 

[JCF]

that leaves a 5 pound sack of jelly beans and a parrot with no feathers. The loss of either one wouldn't distress me.

Dang... you've got a plucker? That's terrible.

 

[wcb]

Some of the people on here are a little too paranoid. If at 3am some asshat brakes down you door waving a gun around and you blow him away no one is going to care about your grips. Now if bad guys all round your town start showing up dead then they might start looking for a "Punisher" copycat.

Well clearly some people call it paranoid and some conservative/prudence. See you're assuming the world works like you play it in your head; truth is, if the investigating officer with enough political pull doesn't like you for some reason, you might spend the rest of your life in prison or at least fear for a long time that you may not see another sunset again.

You know I've been on many gun forums and I have to say that if you read a lot of what's posted about flipped killing attitudes it scares you that private citizens who think like that have guns. Too many gun owners watch way to much TV and develop Ninja attitudes about killing people in the name of self defense. Way too many people lose sight of the fact that using deadly force for self defense means killing someone/taking a human life and that's a very serious subject that sadly is never presented as serious on gun forums. In my opinion that subject should never be taken lightly and I guarantee anyone who takes it at all lightly and does take a life will instantly learn how immature their attitudes were about killing someone.

SO, I think to call people who have a level headed, mature attitude about having a handgun and the possibility of using it for self defense being called "paranoid" is in very poor taste and frankly I question the character of someone making that accusation. I also think having a deadly weapon adorned with death/evil symbols is in about as poor a taste as can possibly be; especially if God forbid it' is used to kill. You say it has no effect on that outcome of a trial? I say for me and what the rest of my life lived in freedom means to me, I dont want to step that close to the edge of the cliff. Rebellious individuality and a death symbol on the grip of my gun inst worth any possible influence of a greater chance of spending the rest of my life in jail. Maybe that's not true for you; I dont know.

 

[Janos Dracwlya]

I don't care one way or the other about the Punisher grips - I've never been a fan - but I'd have to get a set of those Boondock Saints grips if I had a 1911.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

think like that have guns

So are you saying we need test before buying a gun?


I WOULD use that as a carry pistol IF that was my only choice, If the DA is going after you slinging a comic book you're screwed anyway, it does not matter if you have the lone ranger gun if the DA wants you to fry, he will do his best.


EDIT: After reading post I need to say this again in loud terms.

If the DA wants you to go to jail he will do that no matter what Thank You

 

[TimboKhan]

It's your gun, do what you like. I would say that it isn't particularly original, and heaven forbid you use that gun to defend yourself, because a skull festooned grip (be it the Punisher skull, a Pirate skull or any other skull) is surely going to be used against you. Still, if you think it's cool, I say go for it.

A couple of other salient points:

1. Custom grips aren't particularly new, guys. You can tout the whole "gun as a tool" thing all you want, but plenty of famous shooters prefer flashy grips, be they made of silver and gold, have the The Thunder Ranch logo on them, your initials or naked ladies. This guy wants Punisher grips, and while you may not like the image, the idea of having something fancy-pants on your grip is probably as old as the 1911. Darn near every one knows that Patton carried ivory (not pearl, though that is a common mistake) handled pistols, even if they don't know what kind of pistols they were, what war Patton fought in or anything else about the man.

2. It's a mistake to say that the Punisher books aren't adult oriented: In fact, thats exactly the demographic that Marvel was shooting for when they gave the Punisher his own book. To further that arguement, check out the Garth Ennis books. They are fantastic, as is his mini-series "303", which rotates around a spetsnatz guy and a Lee-Enfield. By way of comparison, Frank Millers "Sin City" and his Batman series "Dark Knight" were decidedly not meant to be read by children. Obviously, I am exposing myself as a comic-book nerd by pointing this out, but it's simply erroneous to say that the Punisher is a childrens book. Archie is a childrens book, not the Punisher, although there is an Archie/Punisher team up book thats most hilarious.

 

[Mp7]

does anone know, where i can get
"Hello Kitty" ones?

 

[KrankyKraut]

To: OP. If it makes you happy, do it. But, to me, they do look incredibly nerdy.

Luckily, you can always change them when your taste matures......

 

[Kino74]

Hmmm too bad they don't have a Captain America grips. Red, White and BLue and all about the American Way of life.

If its a collectible or range gun, the Punisher grips would be ok but definitely not on a carry or SD gun. If a DA pulls out any of the Garth Ennis run issues particularly those with Barricuda, you will have problems.