Do we scare off would be shooters

[Warp]

warp, outside of a stupid hunter training course, i have taken no courses.
i have read books, lots of army manuals n this site.
i just work hard.
it took me 7500 practice rounds to get good groups at 25 yards. i'm a slow learner.
i suppose a trainer could could have got me there faster, but i'm having fun.

What trainers keep telling you that you cannot point shoot your pistol at rattlesnakes??


Anybody else noticing that the people who don't believe in training...have never taken any training??

 

[Shaq]

lol, what are you talking about?

Still waiting for you to enlighten us on what kind of trainer you are, BTW.

It's.....way beyond your grasp.

 

[Warp]

It's.....way beyond your grasp.

What kind of trainer/instructor are you?

 

[Sam1911]

That information actually might illuminate what angle you're coming from, as it's a bit hard to understand why you would think some of the things you're arguing.

So, yeah, what type of training do you do, and for/to whom?

 

[giggitygiggity]

I think there exists some potential to scare off would-be shooters. The gun community has a lot of know-it-alls who come off as jerks. People who love to flaunt their opinion as thought it was gospel... "You NEED to do this. You NEED to buy this. That's not the right way. That gun is junk." I have a lot of those same opinions and thoughts, but I try to keep them to myself unless someone asks me. In my mind, I'd rather go shooting with someone who might not have the same gun that I would have chosen or who might have a bad habit or whatnot and share shooting and a good time with them.

To those of you who say "well you shouldn't let someone continue bad habits," I agree, but I have found that when I shoot with someone who has bad habits and their target looks like it was blasted with a shotgun while mine is a single ragged hole, the person usually asks what they did incorrectly and invite me to help them out. It goes back to the lead by example and do as I do, not as I say sort of mentality. Definitely more effective than some bozo telling a new shooting how awesome he is at shooting and then showcasing how little he knows in reality.

 

[Sam1911]

I certainly would agree with all of that, though I think that might be a side issue from the OP's original point. I can say that the really knowledgeable, really successful, shooters I know tend to be very patient, friendly, and open people. Very unlikely to unload vitriol on anyone who isn't being actively and deliberately dangerous.

I gather the OP was mostly frustrated by the gun forum culture which responds to new people coming and asking for advice and how to become safe and proficient shooters ... by telling them ... you know ... how to become safe and proficient shooters.

 

[Old Dog]

I agree with Sam's post. I just reread the original post, and realized that most of us went off in other directions, not really responding to this:

I often read posts advising prospective shooters that they have to practice a lot, practice all sort of positions, clean thier guns a bunch etc. I think we may scare some of them off.

If telling folks that a new hobby they're picking up requires lots of practice, using different positions and actually cleaning their guns regularly scares them off ... it'd appear these folks aren't ready to be responsible shooters anyway.

I confess as well, that having read through the thread again, I'm also curious as to what type of instructor Mr. Shaq is (I'd wondered what he did after retiring from the NBA).

 

[Robert]

This seems like a good place to stop this one.