Do you carry an extra mag with your mouse gun?

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If you do, what is the logic behind it? I can't imagine a situation where you would have the opertunity to reload if you ever needed your mouse gun. I always assumed that a mouse gun was for last ditch self defense at close range, it doesn't make sense to carry an extra mag.

I don't care what people choose to do but I was wondering about the logic. Instead of the extra mag, you could carry a gun that was 5-7 ounces heavier and in a larger caliber.
 
Well, of course I carry a backup mag with me, even if its only my mouse gun. Its been said there's safety in numbers, so I'll be sure that I have a few extra rounds beyond my spare mag too.
Why? OK, so you go for a stroll in the woods and a pack of menacing dogs (or thugs) just happens to be on the same trail as you. Rule number one says don't run. If it becomes a chase game you loose. Rule number two says isolate yourself. climb a tree or if there are none climbable or there aren't any find something to back up against. Protect your backside. Rule number three is defense. Quickly figure out who is the leader and concentrate on causing the most damage to that individual. When the leader has had enough they all will follow. So where does the mouse gun come into play? Well, its here, if the play gets too rough you want to be able to shoot until ALL aggression stops and you can safely exit the area. If that point happens to need more rounds than is in your first mag you reload. It only takes a second and if you have practiced enough you will be revaluating situations and priorities while the reloading sequence occurs. Mad hurt dogs (thugs) may not run far and may lash out while you are attempting to make a safe exit.
Mouse guns aren't known for their might in knock down power so you want enough rounds to over come the situation and I'm not implying a "pray and spray" method either ... gotta hit 'em to hurt 'em.
 
When I was young and freshly licensed (and possessed of the overzealousness of the young), I used to carry my primary, two backup mags, my secondary, two backup mags for it, and a tertiary pistol. (This was as a private citizen in Indianapolis, not a mercenary soldier or anything.) The secondary and tertiary were mouseguns (.22s).

Nowadays, should I ever carry a mousegun (a .32), I don't carry a spare mag. I've already sort of made the determination that I'm not going to need a gun. I know Murphy's Law and all that, but . . . that's where I'm coming from on mouseguns right now. I don't even own a spare mag for the .32.

John/Indigo22 (nice sig line, btw) makes a valid point, however. If you're going to carry the thing in the first place (particularly as a primary, which it seems to be in the scenario Indigo describes), and it's no big inconvenience to schlep a second mag, why not?
 
I do carry a spare mag for my mouse gun, a KelTec P32. The P32 rides in a modified Uncle Mike's #1 pocket holster, and the spare mag is tucked into the "stabilizing wing" of the UM. This flattens out the holster and gives it a square, wallet-like profile in the pocket.

A secondary effect is the availability of spare rounds for the P32...nobody's ever found themselves in a gunfight and said, "I have entirely too many bullets on my person here." The P32 is my primary CCW on occasion, when I go running or on quick trips to the mailbox or the corner store, and I firmly believe in toting a spare mag for any gun I carry. With the UM holster mod, the spare is always with the gun, whether it serves as a primary or backup CCW.
 
Even though I bought an extra mag for the P-32 I never really figured out how I wanted to carry the extra mag yet. Guess I really need to decide how... soon.
 
A buddy gave me a pocket holster w/ a slot for a spare mag...so when I use that holster, I have an extra mag :D Just that simple in my case.
 
My extra mag rides in a nylon pouch that came with my pocket knife. While the gun is well out of sight (CCW) the spare mag is close at hand if its needed and doesn't need to be concealed.
 
I don't understand "mouse gun" though. Is that anything smaller than 45 caliber??
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Everybody defines mouse gun differently but I consider it to have more to do with the size of the gun than the cartridge. For example, the Kel-Tec P3-AT is a mouse gun but a Browning BDA .380 isn't. Same cal, but different size gun. A Ruger MK II isn;t but a NAA mini revolver is, get it? Mostly, mouse guns are smaller caliber but not always, the Kahr PM9 may be considered a mouse gun by some, not me.

I guess mouse guns are smaller than compact sub-compact guns. They call the Glock 26/27 a sub compact but that thing is huge! My rule of thumb is, anything smaller and lighter than a Walther PPK chambered in .380 or smaller, is a mouse gun.
 
I don't have a mouse gun...


But if I did, I won't carry an extra mag, as it's one more item to conceal: I get bulkier, easier to make out & so, defeats the purpose of carrying a mouse. :rolleyes:
 
What lendsringer said.

Also, I once read a Tamara post that said something like--proper mouse gun tactics are "empty, run, reload".
 
Having been there on a few occasions, you NEVER EVER EVER want to run out of ammo in a firefight. I've had to fall back to a P35 when I ran a CAR-15 dry until we got a resupply and when you're getting down to your last mag for the pistol, it's real spooky !!!!

Once you've become engaged, you never know how many others may want to join in or how much ammo you may be up against, only can hope that the opponent follows the advice of some of the others here and you're the only one with a few mags.

As for bulk, 3-4 P32 mags don't amount to hardly anything either in bulk or weight.
 
Quote from firestar, "If you do, what is the logic behind it? I can't imagine a situation where you would have the opertunity to reload if you ever needed your mouse gun. I always assumed that a mouse gun was for last ditch self defense at close range, it doesn't make sense to carry an extra mag."

I carry spare mags for the same reason I carry more than one bullet - I may need them. Just because the gun is a smaller size does not mean that I need less ammo than I would carry with my larger full-sized 1911. In fact, probably the opposite is more true.

The only time I don't carry a spare mag for a mouse gun is when the mouse gun is the backup to a larger gun for which I do have spare mags. If the mouse gun is carried as the primary, then of course I will carry spare mags.

firestar, you assumption that a mouse gun for for last ditch self defense at close range is right on the money, but those criteria apply to every gun I own. Using a gun means the situation has gotten to the point where one needs complete closure and once a gun is brought into the fight, that will be the last ditch effort.

Something else to consider is that if you carry a mouse gun as your primary weapon, you stand a much greater chance of not stopping your opponent as quicker and may need to hit the person more times. A reload may be necessary.

Personally, I think carrying a mouse gun as a primary gun is not a good idea. I only do so when I don't have other options for carrying larger and even then I will work to make a larger gun fit my circumstances. Spatially, I can carry my Colt Pony and 6 spare mags in less space than my 1911. So there are some interesting variations on the advantages of carrying small.
 
Mouse gun or Moose gun.....Always at least one reload for each.

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