Eleven Mike
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spiroxlii, I guess you might be right. Still, it is worth pointing out the problem with his claim that state laws supersede the wishes of the "company."
TAB said:So disrespecting the properity owners wishs, even if it legal to do so is ok with you?
This is one of the things that really pisses me off about the gun commuinty. We are all about rights, yet we no prob with violating some one elses rights in the process.
treo said:One of the things that pisses me off about, not neccessarily the gun community but certainly the the THR community is when they DON'T ACTUALLY READ A POST, that essentially agrees W/ their position ( like say for instance a post about how we need to respect the rights of property owners to phrohibit guns on their property) , and proceed to go ballistic on them for posting it.
COULD WE PA-LEEZ ACTUALLY READ THE POST WE ARE REPLYING TO?
Eleven, I don't think he was saying that we're free to trample on property rights. I just think he meant that the signs themselves don't carry legal weight. Here in Georgia, the signs don't mean anything legally. If an owner or manager asks me to leave for ANY reason, though (even if it's because I'm legally carrying a gun in his or her store), I must leave or I will be guilty of criminal trespass. I can't say, "Nuh-uh! Your sign doesn't mean anything because the law says this place isn't off limits!"
The law may not make the corner store off limits. The sign at the corner store may not be able to change the fact that it's legal for me to carry there. But if the owner/operator wants me out of the store because of my gun (or any other reason), then it doesn't matter if it's legal for me to carry there, because it would be illegal for me to continue to BE there at all.
So disrespecting the properity owners wishs, even if it legal to do so is ok with you?
This is one of the things that really pisses me off about the gun commuinty. We are all about rights, yet we no prob with violating some one elses rights in the process.
I've heard all the excuses from all the other dealers; safety, stupid customers, insurance liability, corporate lawyers etc... None of these holds water with me. You either respect your customers and pay attention to them or you lose my business and should lose everyone else's. Maybe sell mattresses and pillows instead.
It kind of depends on which gun shop I'm going to visit. The one close to my house wouldn't care if I came in with full tactical gear on. The one across town gets a tight ass every time I walk in the place, even though they have no signs up prohibiting concealed carry. I've bought plenty of guns from both places, but the local guys are the more "CC-friendly".