Do you support amending the Constitution so Arnold can run for President?
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Sean85746
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molonlabe said:
Um...what about Ronald Reagan?
I am not saying that Arnie should be president...I won't vote for him. But the greatest president of our time was a former movie star.
Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. May he rest in peace. God Bless Ronnie!
geekWithA.45
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Nope.
If arnold is the best the GOP can come up with, it'll be the GOP that's broken, not the Constitution.
If arnold is the best the GOP can come up with, it'll be the GOP that's broken, not the Constitution.
cls12vg30
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Something I haven't seen addressed in this thread, or anywhere else for that matter, is the reason that the Founding Fathers placed that clause in the Constitution. The Founders' reasoning was that, since the President is CINC of the armed forces, it would be a bad idea to let immigrants hold that office, because if that was allowed, someday we might find ourselves in a situation where we were at war or having tension with the country of the President's birth, which could create a severe conflict of interest, or at least a crisis of conscience for the President.
We'd be a lot better off as a nation if more people looked deeper into the Founding Father's reasoning, everything in there is there for a good reason, once you find out what it is, it's often like a smack in the head. "I should have thought of that." Man those were some smart guys.
We'd be a lot better off as a nation if more people looked deeper into the Founding Father's reasoning, everything in there is there for a good reason, once you find out what it is, it's often like a smack in the head. "I should have thought of that." Man those were some smart guys.
Gordon Fink
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I would be inclined to say yes, once the candidate had been a naturalized citizen for the 35 years required by the Constitution. However, my immigrant wife (not yet a citizen) thinks this is a bad idea, so who am I to disagree?
~G. Fink
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cslinger
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Did I mention NO!!!!!! 
Just wanted to make sure everybody got my No vote since this is such a closely fought race
Chris
Just wanted to make sure everybody got my No vote since this is such a closely fought race
Chris
Sam Adams
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Not only no, but F@#$ NO!!!!
Even if I wanted Arnold to be the President (and I don't, since he's a social liberal and, at best, cool to lukewarm on the RKBA), I wouldn't want the Constitution changed. We have nearly 300 million people in this country, probably 150 million of which are eligible to be President (i.e. born here, old enough and residing here for 14 years), and if we can't find someone in that group to lead this country, then we're in so much trouble that 1 foreign-born guy isn't going to help much.
Besides, if it is open for Arnold, it is also open for George Soros and others of his ilk. Sorry, but NFW.
Even if I wanted Arnold to be the President (and I don't, since he's a social liberal and, at best, cool to lukewarm on the RKBA), I wouldn't want the Constitution changed. We have nearly 300 million people in this country, probably 150 million of which are eligible to be President (i.e. born here, old enough and residing here for 14 years), and if we can't find someone in that group to lead this country, then we're in so much trouble that 1 foreign-born guy isn't going to help much.
Besides, if it is open for Arnold, it is also open for George Soros and others of his ilk. Sorry, but NFW.
Sven
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Prepare to give up your .50 caliber rifles. No thanks to Arnold as president. 
grnzbra
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Isn't that what the antis are telling us we should be doing with the first part of 2A? It doesn't matter what the reason was, it matters only what it says, whether that is "...shall not be infringed" (for whatever reason) or "No Person except a natural born Citizen...". If we want Ahhhnold to be President, amend the Constitution to allow it. Otherwise it becomes a "living document", kinda like a jellyfish, rather than a dead thing like a slab of granite that takes some effort to change.
By the way,
I believe that "Citizen of the United States" and "at the time of the Adoption of this constitution" belong together so that they wouldn't be excluding themselves from the office (since the United States didn't exist at the time of their birth, none of them were natural born Citizens.) So, since Ahhhhnold was n't a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, he couldn't get in on this.
And one other thing.
If you go to the site, you find it titled AmendForArnold&Jen
Who is Jen?
Andrew Rothman
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeck no!
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Which echo my sentiments about amending the US Constitution in such a manner.
No is always no
If they say no, it means a thousand times no
No plus no equals no
All nos lead to no no no
Finger pointing, eyebrows low
Mouth in the shape of the letter O
Pardon me -- No!
Excuse me -- No!
May I stay?
Can I go?
No, no, no
Do this -- No!
Don't do that -- No!
Sit, stay, roll over
No, no, no
Finger pointing, eyebrows low
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Red means stop. Do not go.
No, no, no
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Which echo my sentiments about amending the US Constitution in such a manner.
molonlabe
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Good point. RR had a clear conservative agenda Arnold has not done anything to impress me much. Of course that may change but right now he is just a movie star and will remain so until he has a record.
http://www.ronaldreagan.com/hollywood.html
http://www.ronaldreagan.com/firstterm.html
http://www.ronaldreagan.com/secondterm.html
perry1963
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Let me think about it I thought about it and no.
The only reason i voted him for gov. was to get Gray Davis out of office, but even if he had a 100% rating from the NRA I still say no to changing the constitution.
The only reason i voted him for gov. was to get Gray Davis out of office, but even if he had a 100% rating from the NRA I still say no to changing the constitution.
I remember a man named Henry Kissinger, a great statesman. IMO, foreign born, Germany, who could not hold an elected office which could put him in line for president. No one suggested anything of this sort in respect to him, At the time it was acceped as just being the way it is. Maybe a long way of saying NO! on my part
grnzbra said:
I thought the point about "Why its there" was as a counter to "should it be changed".
E.g.
Q: "Can the government do ... (take away your guns, allow Arnie to be POTOS, etc)?"
A: "No - the Constitution doesn't allow it."
Q: "Should the Constitution be changed to allow it?"
A: "No, because it says what it says for a good reason (namely...)"
JimC
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No.
Bobarino
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another "no" vote. i'd like to stick with Americans running America thanks.
Bobby
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Absolutely not. The idea of changing the US Constitution just to suit the political aspirations of a single man is insane, and a very dangerous notion IMHO. The Constitution is not something to be lightly toyed with and modified whenever it becomes an annoyance to some politician.
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