Does a LEO know if you have a CCW for a routine traffic stop?

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I'm not sure. I can't imagine that the information is cross-linked, though it may well be.

How, pray tell, did you manage to get a CCW in California?
 
In some states yes, in some no ... maybe www.packing.org would have the answer


Hey heypete!

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Here in Colorado "SOME" sheriffs enter CCW holders in the NICS system. Basically, law-abiding citizens are entered into a criminal database for the "safety" of the officers. It's really just an excuse to discriminate against gun owners.
 
Depends on the state. In VT and AK, no. In Ohio, yes, IF the plates are in the same name as the driver. All they are really told is whether the person to whom the vehicle is registered has a CCW license. That person may or may not be in the vehicle.
 
I'm in CA and have a CCW. Never been asked by a LE during a traffic stop. Also CA law doesn't require you to tell a LE as some other states do. So I would have to say, no I don't think it comes up on their computer.

But I would offer the info if I were asked to step out of the car or something like that. For a regular seatbelt ticket where you don't have to step out of the car, it's none of his business and will most likely just aggrivate the situation.
 
Argh. I'm in San Mateo County (just south of San Francisco). Well within the "Red" zone.

I applied for one last year, was denied. Fortunately, the police said "Hey, don't bother with the money...if you get approved, then you can send a check", so I wasn't out anything for trying.
 
What about Florida?

Do Floridians get put on a criminal database as well?

When you get pulled over does the police officer know you have a ccw?


One more question, if you commit a crime and your leave fingerprints can they catch you since you submitted your fingerprints to the state? (reason I asked this is because my friends dad is a cop and he told me that unless you have committed a crime in the past and been caught there is no way to trace your fingerprint back.)
 
if you commit a crime and your leave fingerprints can they catch you since you submitted your fingerprints to the state?
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Yes, so I suggest that you refrain from committing a crime.
 
In Minnesota - no. We were specifically told this at the CCW training class. That is why we have a requirement to inform the officer if we are carrying.
 
In Minnesota - no. We were specifically told this at the CCW training class. That is why we have a requirement to inform the officer if we are carrying.
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Either you remember wrong, or your instructor was wrong.

In Minnesota, while the plate isn't linked to the permit, the plate is linked to the owner, which is linked to the permit, and police DO have the ability to check a name to see if there's a permit.

Also, in Minnesota, there is NOT a requirement to inform an officer you are a permit holder or that you are carrying.

The only requirement is this: If he asks if you are carrying, you do have to tell the truth, and show the permit if he asks to see it.
 
Matt, I am sure my memory is not slipping. It was just a week ago. He specifically said "There is no way to see if you have a permit on the squad car computer"

He also said there was no requirement ot inform in the original MPPA, but it is one of the things that changed in the new version.
 
I wondered if they knew it here in Ohio, I remember they did some type of vehicle check when I got my CCW. Both car and truck were in my wife's name then and still are. The Goldwing is in my name and I bought an old beater to drive to work since I got the CCW. I wonder if that plate would give them my CCW status since I bought it afterwards?
 
Sorry. Your instructor is wrong about the requirement to inform. Part (d) below is the new language.
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S2259.2&session=ls84

Sec. 3. Minnesota Statutes 2004, section 624.714,
3.30 subdivision 1b, is amended to read:
3.31 Subd. 1b. [DISPLAY OF PERMIT; PENALTY.] (a) The holder of
3.32 a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's
3.33 license, state identification card, or other government-issued
3.34 photo identification in immediate possession at all times when
3.35 carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and
3.36 identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer,
4.1 as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of
4.2 this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first
4.3 offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a
4.4 firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to
4.5 forfeiture.
4.6 (b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be
4.7 dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office
4.8 of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to
4.9 carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
4.10 (c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder
4.11 must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid
4.12 in verifying the person's identity.
4.13 (d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder
4.14 shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder
4.15 is currently carrying a firearm.
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...and in subd. 6 of the law...

(c) Upon issuing a permit to carry, the sheriff must
provide a laminated permit card to the applicant by first class
mail unless personal delivery has been made. Within five
business days, the sheriff must submit the information specified
in subdivision 7, paragraph (a), to the commissioner for
inclusion solely in the database required under subdivision 15,
paragraph (a). The sheriff must transmit the information in a
manner and format prescribed by the commissioner.
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...and subd. 15 states...

Subd. 15. Commissioner; contracts; database. (a) The
commissioner must maintain an automated database of persons
authorized to carry pistols under this section that is available
24 hours a day, seven days a week, only to law enforcement
agencies, including prosecutors carrying out their duties under
subdivision 8a, to verify the validity of a permit.
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Who was the instructor...

... who gave you such wrong information, White Horseradish?

The short form is that Matt Payne is right -- and don't take my word for it; read the law -- and that your instructor was completely wrong. It's black-letter law.

And, for that matter, he was doubly wrong: the requirement to inform, "upon lawful demand" was in the 2003 MCPPA. The only change made about that in the 2005 MCPPA was trivial; see http://www.livejournal.com/users/joelrosenberg/122006.html .
 
In WV, it is in the CIB database. No OLN or DMV flags. The CHL information doesn't come through immediately, but they do know the CIB is incomplete. After 5-10 minutes, they get it.

Don't ask why they use CIB. I could guess that it was because the State Police were required by law to keep CHL info, but no money was allocated for a specific database(This was the '80s).
 
in nv. yes ccw is cross ref. to plates and dl in clark cnty (vegas) anyway , anytime I've have been stopped (not many) it always causes a little more tense stop till leo findsout where my weapon is.
 
In VA, you betcha. Shows up when the officer runs the plate or the license. Most officers will run the plate before coming to the car to get you license, reg, & proof of ins. I used to listen to Chesapeake PD on the way home from work (I was also in the auxilliary academy at the time) & I used to hear this pop up quite a bit. Dispatch would notify the officer by stating something to the tune of "be advised....subject has license to carry a handgun." Now CPD has gone to a trunked system and I haven't bothered to get the new scanner (it's real expensive), but each car now has direct computer access to all the stuff dispatch has.

Honestly, I've never been stopped since I had my CCW (I like to stay below the radar as much as possible). If I am stopped, I'll give the officer what he requests, then tell him that I have a license to carry and whether or not I have a weapon with me. Not required, but I'll give him/her the courtesy - they'll know anyway.
 
In Utah that law says you have to inform LEO when contacted, whether or not you are carrying. I'd assume then that your CCL will show when they check your DL and they don't want a surprise on the screen. No big deal with any LEO's I've encountered (save one, but that wasn't much either).
 
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