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In many cases, using the US Military as a paradigm for "best practices" just doesn't pay the rent.A close friend of mine was in the U.S. military at the time and he was carrying an issued 1911,and NO ROUNDS in his chamber.
In many cases, using the US Military as a paradigm for "best practices" just doesn't pay the rent.A close friend of mine was in the U.S. military at the time and he was carrying an issued 1911,and NO ROUNDS in his chamber.
I agree for the most part; the one thing I do not necessarily agree with is the cheap holster. A DeSantis pocket holster is an excellent product and very inexpensive and does exactly what it is designed to do - hide the gun outline and protect the trigger. And absolutely nothing else in that pocket, ESPECIALLY things like keysIf you aren’t comfortable carrying it with a round in the chamber, then I would respectfully suggest you shouldn’t be carrying it. Any carry gun should inspire 100% confidence.
That said, as others have pointed out, a proper holster (fit and trigger coverage) makes it absolutely as safe as a holster on your belt. Don’t be cheap when it comes to the holster.
One note: Regardless of the gun and holster, I don’t believe we should ever carry anything in that pocket except the gun - no keys, knives, chewing gum, etc. The only danger I can possibly envision from pocket carry is when there is another object that could possibly find its way into the holster and cause a negligent discharge.
I can see that for an old single action, but what does it do for you with a double action?if it is a revolver - the cylinder lined up to the barrel is empty
I don't carry one in the chamber, and if it is a revolver - the cylinder lined up to the barrel is empty. My first priority is never having an accident.incident, so - only really owned firearms for a couple years, and that is what I'm comfortable with. I've read plenty that people think that is silly, but I don't care. Granted, I've practiced draw from shoulder holster and IWB, and the delay to rack a slide is dramatic, but it is what it is. I personally carry only so I am not completely defenseless, and the chamber being empty just feels safer to me, so - it is what I do.
nope. just seen to many weird things, heard people say too many times - "well, that's not supposed to happen", or "don't worry, it's fine" only to then witness something go wrong real fast. lightning, static electricity, taser, act of god - don't know, just know that if the round isn't in the chamber it can't get fired down the barrel, it is the only way to know for sure. when I was a kid, guns we learned on didn't have safeties, and I guess I learned then that it wasn't safe to keep a round in the chamber, so I still follow that 40+ years later.Why do you not want a round in the chamber under the hammer of your revolver? Is it a very old revolver?
The gun won't fire unless you pull that relatively loooong double-action trigger.I can't bring myself to do is carrying it with one in the chamber
nope. just seen to many weird things, heard people say too many times - "well, that's not supposed to happen", or "don't worry, it's fine" only to then witness something go wrong real fast. lightning, static electricity, taser, act of god - don't know, just know that if the round isn't in the chamber it can't get fired down the barrel, it is the only way to know for sure. when I was a kid, guns we learned on didn't have safeties, and I guess I learned then that it wasn't safe to keep a round in the chamber, so I still follow that 40+ years later.
Well, as someone else pointed out - your practice of carrying with the hammer on an empty chamber only works for a SAO revolver. If it’s on the empty chamber and some “magic” event happens that causes the hammer to cock and drop, then the cylinder is going to rotate and a loaded chamber will be under the hammer, resulting in a discharge.
You might want to reevaluate your method of carry, taking into account how the gun actually works.
In many cases, using the US Military as a paradigm for "best practices" just doesn't pay the rent.
I REFUSE to carry a weapon without either a full-stroke / full-weight trigger pull, positive manual safety or true single action design. The "dingus" on a typical striker gun is NOT a true safety, just a mechanism to prevent discharge if dropped.
I'll second that. The "Israeli carry" option is off the table for the little guns, IMO. I don't even like it for bigger pistols, but as for the P32, the only guns I'd less like to rack in a stressful situation are a Beretta Jetfire and a Seecamp. There just isn't enough to grab onto.My P32 takes 2 men and a boy to chamber a round. (Just kidding, but it is probably the hardest pistol that I own to rack.)
I would hate to have to do it in the split second that someone was trying to take my life.