Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics, and Training' started by azhunter122, Sep 1, 2008.
I read about the Rhodesian Drill, two to the body, one to the head. it is harder than you would think. I practice this everytime I go shooting.
With a 9mm, it is important that your first shot is a kill shot. Even with Hollowpoints. I have a mag loaded with "Safety Slugs" 9mm hollowpoints with the hollow part filled with very small bbs.
Mark Wilson was shot while behind cover. In fact, he was using the engine compartment of a truck for cover. Depending on accounts, he was shot while engaging from behind cover.
As it turned out, he engaged the bad guy from behind the engine compartment of the BG's own truck. Wilson opened up on the BG during a lull in the BG's firing (reloading, I recall). That got the BG's attention who turned and engaged Wilson. The distance was something like 2-3 parking spaces away.
The Wiki account of the exchange is about right...
So Wilson shot, moved of the mythical X and did moved to cover. He engaged the threat from cover. Basically, he did a lot of things right given the choices he made for battle, but still lost. He likely had no way to know that the cover he had chosen was the BG's own vehicle and the BG was determined to use it for his egress.
This brings up an important point. You can do everything right the day of your gunfight and still die! That's the nature of the beast. Something you should keep in mind when you are making your decision to fight or flee.
The above clinches it best in my mind. Mix it up!!!!!
Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch says that when you are in a fight, you must expect the worst, and that your shots may not stop the threat.
Always be prepared to rise to higher level of tactical nuance.
That's steps 0 and 1.5.
If you're forced to draw, you want to think about if you're going to shoot -- It needs to be rational and deliberate, not reflexive.
Law here says "sufficient to stop the threat" (Oregon).
BOOM, BOOM . . . and look over the sights for a "threat check."
Shot placement -- 500 Smith & Wesson won't stop the threat if you don't place the shot.
Most SD encounters aren't against a gang with uzi's. "Rule of three" isn't a theory, it's an evaluation of incidents. 3 shots, 3 feet, 3 seconds.
I always smile to myself when I see someone carrying a gun with 18 rounds and 2 spare magazines.
I don't feel that the many revolver guys around here are going out without enough gun. Occasionally a j-frame is all I carry, usually with a loader. Often I go out with 1911 without a spare magazine, although I usually do carry a spare. My 16+1 rounds have never made me feel as though I just didn't have enough bullets to get thru my day.
Lest we forget, what happens most of the time isn't what happens every time. The consequences of having a slightly hazy crystal ball influences what each of us decides to do personally.
at times at the range, i'll have a buddy engage the "pulley" to have the target advance. not exactly the most realistic but still teaches your eyes/mind to negotiate a target that is changing range. not as easy as i thought it'd be at first.
not to derail the thread but anybody have any cheap ideas for simulating a moving terrestrial target?
One of my favorite training games is to tie a helium ballon on to the back of rc car and have a friend control it. It's actually just as fun to be the driver as the shooter and it really builds a solid skill, too.
Let me explain in real terms what a fight is, with weapons, or without.
A fight is a totally unknown incident, that if it could have been predicted, would not have you, a sensible person, as a participant!
What on earth is wrong with a Glock 19, and a spare magazine (Glock 17 spare) carried every day? In a holster, concealed. Getting dressed for this retired old chap means I have had a shower, cleaned teeth put clothes on, and a pistol, and a spare magazine most likely to be deployed, not to send more ammunition down range, but rather if a malfunction occurs!
It works for one shot or 16 prior to a reload. If it is never fired in anger? So what? Like the vehicle Insurance you pay $1,000.00 a year for, why do you need it, you do not go out to have an accident do you?
Our local Supermarket is a haven of everyday people shopping, with clean, friendly staff.
My Wife is a shopper that shops, like most of the customers in this large, clean establishment.
A couple of weeks ago three Gang bangers entered the store, walked around, no baskets, no cart! just eying customers! I and more than one other male customers eyed them right back! It was like the sitting on the stool in the corner of the ring, tension descended like a cloud.
I have been shopping there for 5 years! never seen a stand out of trouble to be like it, a big young man close to me caught my eye, and continued to track the three. They walked out, he nodded at me, I nodded back. We went about our shopping, my Wife noticed nothing.
One incident in 5 years, one. What did it mean? I don't know, why were they there, I don't know, but that clean, loaded, quite new (a year or more is new!) Glock 19 with TruGlow sights, felt really good.
Spoke to a floor Manager I have spoken to before, "Yes I saw them" he said.
No, you do not carry a gun to get into a fight, you carry a gun because this is America! And you (and I) can!
My bad. I posted sound general principles and shouldn't have made a comment on a specific incident without knowing the details.
The awful truth.
And a 5-rd revolver with a 5-rd reload wouldn't have been enough gun here? How so? I'm glad you're comfortable with a Glock, but my point was that the wheelgunner with the j-frame is sufficiently armed. Or me, with my 1911, totalling 9 rounds, would I be undergunned?
I think not.
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