Cannonball888
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Stick the spare magazine between your teeth and establish a firm two-handed grip. It may not look pretty but you aren't posing for Guns 'N Ammo. 
Draw your spare magazine with your pistol?
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SIRVEYR666
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No. This method is dumb. My technique involves drawing my spare magazine when I need it and only when I need it.
The Lone Haranguer
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Agreed. Practice your reloading and malfunction clearance separately.Jeff White said:
outerlimit
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I hadn't really thought of this before...
The only thing I can think of to add is that they shouldn't be drawn at the same time. However, I'm not sure it's a bad idea to draw the magazine after the gun is ready if things are clear. And hold the spare mag in a flashlight style FBI hold where your weak arm is resting under your strong arm that is holding the gun. This is kind of interesting now that I think about it, I'll have to try this out sometime at the firing range.
The only thing I can think of to add is that they shouldn't be drawn at the same time. However, I'm not sure it's a bad idea to draw the magazine after the gun is ready if things are clear. And hold the spare mag in a flashlight style FBI hold where your weak arm is resting under your strong arm that is holding the gun. This is kind of interesting now that I think about it, I'll have to try this out sometime at the firing range.
Possum, You are correct we do carry mechanical items and they will fail. You can what if this thing to death if you wanted too. Im just stating what works for me and YES I believe my pistol right now if god forbid I had to draw it, she would run 110%
CoRoMo
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If it looks like you're going to need more than the first magazine, I think the first magazine should be used to provide you the time to find cover where you can then secure a plan, access your spare mag or reload from behind cover, find an escape, etc.
If you're going to need to fire off 15-20 rounds to defend yourself, you shouldn't be swapping mags/reloading out in the open.
If you're going to need to fire off 15-20 rounds to defend yourself, you shouldn't be swapping mags/reloading out in the open.
Your trained responses should be prioritized according to your likely threats.
If your gun is malfunctioning sufficiently that you need a spare mag to fix it so often that this technique seems to make sense, then you need to fix something. If the recurring malfunction is a double feed, you need to fix your gun. I will point out that if you are clearing a double feed, you don't need the spare mag until after you use your left hand to manipulate the gun; these manipulations will be slower and clumsier holding the spare mag. If your malfunction is that you are running out of ammo, then you need to fix your marksmanship. In both of these instances, your technique increases the likelihood of the problem, and in one it slows down the remedial action.
If you have to draw your gun, your immediate priority is to deal with the threat, not to deal with some possible malfunction. Your malfunction rate should be less than 1%.
You have reinvented the wheel... except your "wheel" is triangular. Use it if you want, but a number of people here have told you that the ride will be bumpy, and why it will be so.
If your gun is malfunctioning sufficiently that you need a spare mag to fix it so often that this technique seems to make sense, then you need to fix something. If the recurring malfunction is a double feed, you need to fix your gun. I will point out that if you are clearing a double feed, you don't need the spare mag until after you use your left hand to manipulate the gun; these manipulations will be slower and clumsier holding the spare mag. If your malfunction is that you are running out of ammo, then you need to fix your marksmanship. In both of these instances, your technique increases the likelihood of the problem, and in one it slows down the remedial action.
If you have to draw your gun, your immediate priority is to deal with the threat, not to deal with some possible malfunction. Your malfunction rate should be less than 1%.
You can. Anything you practice doing wrong you have practiced too much.
You have reinvented the wheel... except your "wheel" is triangular. Use it if you want, but a number of people here have told you that the ride will be bumpy, and why it will be so.
Double Naught Spy
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And here is a critical point. You won't know if it adds any time to your draw unless you put a clock on it. However, it isn't the time of your draw that is so critical as time to your first shot and then whether or not that first shot is as good if encumbered with the spare mag or not.
It is one thing to draw. It is another to draw, fire, and hit where you aim in the most efficient manner possible.
By adding the magazine to your draw, you do not have an economy of motion as compared to not adding the magazine to your draw.
It is good to try to come up with better things. Heck, most of us have our own quirks that we find helpful. Some ideas, however, just don't work very well.
If you want to improve your training don't practice drawing your mag as you draw your gun. Everyone else has said why that's a bad idea and a waste of your valuable training time, so I won't belabor the point.
But, if you really do want to improve your training time, start practicing MOVING OFF THE LINE OF ATTACK during your draw.
Practice moving sideways, both the right and left, and moving diagnolly away from the attacker.
If you do that, you'll be spending your training time on something that will actually help you, and not on some half-baked new technique you came up with.
Oh, and after you've practiced moving while drawing and gotten good at making your hits and made it a routine part of your practice, add in moving while doing malfunction clearances.
But, if you really do want to improve your training time, start practicing MOVING OFF THE LINE OF ATTACK during your draw.
Practice moving sideways, both the right and left, and moving diagnolly away from the attacker.
If you do that, you'll be spending your training time on something that will actually help you, and not on some half-baked new technique you came up with.
Oh, and after you've practiced moving while drawing and gotten good at making your hits and made it a routine part of your practice, add in moving while doing malfunction clearances.
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I'm agreeing with the general tone of this thread - trying to draw both your weapon and the spare mag at the same time is inviting all sorts of complications and complexities into an already-difficult process. And while I am all for being prepared...drawing the spare mag at the same time seems a little ridiculous. If I've emptied my XD45 (1 in the chamber and 13 in the mag) and need to break out the spare, I need to either improve my aim or run the heck away.
Practice clearing malfunctions instead of drawing the spare. And practice your throwing technique, because if we listen to possum your gun is bound to break, so you might as well practice chucking it at your assailant in one last desperate act
That's my opinion, anyways.
Go well
Practice clearing malfunctions instead of drawing the spare. And practice your throwing technique, because if we listen to possum your gun is bound to break, so you might as well practice chucking it at your assailant in one last desperate act
That's my opinion, anyways.
Go well
Don't assume I've never taken a gun class.
Yes I would take my support hand off the weapon while shooting to ready a second mag. One of the "stupid" ways I like to practice is with only one hand. I shoot with one hand a lot. I'm very capable of hitting my target. I also practice firing from unconventional positions: on my back, seated, behind cover, while moving, squatting, etc. How dumb of me. I guess the only way I should practice is with a textbook two-handed grip in a weaver stance.
Don't give me any B.S. about firing under stress either. You're not the only one who's ever fired under stress.
I was hoping for some constructive criticism. I was also expecting several people to think this was a bad idea. What I wasn't expecting was so many chairborne commandos with "more experience than you'll ever have" going on about how "STUPID" anything outside the box is.
Very friggin' High Road.
I'd say it was very constructive. The only problem is, you got defensive. It's a bad idea to draw your gun and your spare mag a the same time. It really is that simple... for all the reason already mentioned.
Look, I've had some bad ideas too. Heck, I used peanut oil in a brownie recipe once. If people had told me it was a stupid idea, I would have made them anyway, eaten all of them, and proclaimed it to be the best batch of brownies ever. We're human. Don't ask for a thread-lock. Take a breath, think about who's saying what, and re-evaluate.
Look, I've had some bad ideas too. Heck, I used peanut oil in a brownie recipe once. If people had told me it was a stupid idea, I would have made them anyway, eaten all of them, and proclaimed it to be the best batch of brownies ever. We're human. Don't ask for a thread-lock. Take a breath, think about who's saying what, and re-evaluate.
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OK, if that's what you want- it's your option.
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