Editorial on open carry in Houston Chronicle

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From today's (Nov 14) Houston Chronicle editorial page:

"Visible holsters

Open carry in Texas becomes effective on Jan. 1 — we’ll have to get used to it.
If you decide to take a stroll around your neighborhood park after the new year, don’t be alarmed to observe a young woman, perhaps a neighbor, sitting on a bench casually reading on her mobile electronic device, a .380-caliber semi-automatic handgun strapped to her hip. Or, don’t get nervous if you see a man walking his Bichon on a leash while carrying a .45-caliber pistol in a holster on his shoulder. Welcome to the new Texas.

At the stroke of midnight on Jan. 1, a new law passed by the 84th Texas Legislature and later signed by Gov. Greg Abbott allows Texans to carry any handgun openly or concealed as long as they are licensed by Texas or a state with reciprocity. Under the new law, the handgun must be carried in a shoulder or belt holster.

There should be no cause for alarm or reason to call the police. “It’s going to take some getting used to by all of us,” Houston Police Chief Charles A. McClelland Jr., said at a recent open-carry information meeting that attracted 200 people, mostly concealed-carry license holders.

We applaud McClelland, Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson and City Attorney Donna Edmundson for participating in the meeting, and we suggest they hold more before the end of the year. A video of the meeting can be accessed on the HPD website and is well worth watching.

The trio acknowledged that the open-carry law is complex, with nuances and scenarios that can unfold when people are strolling around with guns on their hips.

The good news, according to Anderson, is that licensed gun owners — the only ones who will be permitted to carry their weapons openly — are generally law-abiding citizens, having already cleared the legal hurdles to win approval for a gun license.

First, some perspective: While historic in scope, the new law reflects the evolving nature of public policy. It was 145 years ago in 1871, just six years after the Civil War, when the Texas Legislature first outlawed the carrying of pistols outside the home. It was just 20 years ago when the Legislature passed its landmark Concealed Handgun License law in 1995. Now, come January, Texas will join a majority of states that allow open carry of handguns, and Houston will become the largest U.S. city where open carry is permitted.

Texas indeed will be more gun-friendly, something the Chronicle editorial board has opposed because of the atrocities wrought by gun violence across this country and the reluctance of Texas lawmakers to consider even modest restrictions on lawful access to guns and gun ownership. However, that debate will be muted until the next tragedy, and the focus now needs to be directed to understanding the do’s and don’ts under the new law.

There are things that CHL holders and the unarmed need to keep in mind:
• CHL holders can’t open carry everywhere. Private businesses and public buildings and spaces have varied open-carry restrictions.
• Police are allowed to stop someone openly carrying a handgun to check for identification and a gun license. Be cooperative.
• Private property owners can prohibit open carry weapons by displaying proper signage or if the owner asks the person with the gun to leave the property.
The bottom line is this: The law is new, so there is a learning curve we all have to negotiate. Keep yourself safe and make the situation safer for an inquiring police officer.

As far as the woman sitting on a bench and casually reading on her mobile device, a .380 on her hip, just wave and say good afternoon. She’s probably not someone you need to worry about. "
 
The Chronicle was doing fairly well until they got to this point:

Texas indeed will be more gun-friendly, something the Chronicle editorial board has opposed because of the atrocities wrought by gun violence across this country and the reluctance of Texas lawmakers to consider even modest restrictions on lawful access to guns and gun ownership. However, that debate will be muted until the next tragedy, and the focus now needs to be directed to understanding the do’s and don’ts under the new law.

Then they turned into just another liberal rag, gun hating Editorial Board. No surprise. The Miami Herald is as bad and probably worse.
 
I spent a few years in Virginia (I currently live in TX, and grew up in CA) and got used to seeing a pistol open carried very quickly. There will always be someone that will freak out when they see a pistol/rifle carried in the open, I expect to have a Peace Officer ask for my LTC card. I won't even give then a hard time for asking :)
 
The editorial seems to assume that open carry will become commonplace. Here in Virginia, open carry is legal without a permit. Yet I never see anyone open carrying in urban areas. The few that do seem to be activists trying to make a point (misguidedly, imo). I don't think that Texas will be any different after Jan. 1st.

The real significance of the Texas law will be as an adjunct to concealed carrying. That is, people won't have to worry about their concealed handgun becoming visible by accident, etc.

I don't think that open carrying prevents crime. Conversely, it might mark the carrier as a target. Widespread concealed carrying has much more of a deterrent effect, since the criminal never knows who might be carrying.
 
Police are allowed to stop someone openly carrying a handgun to check for identification and a gun license. Be cooperative.

So the Police are allowed to stop you and demand your papers.

Texas indeed will be more gun-friendly, something the Chronicle editorial board has opposed because of the atrocities wrought by gun violence across this country and the reluctance of Texas lawmakers to consider even modest restrictions on lawful access to guns and gun ownership. However, that debate will be muted until the next tragedy, and the focus now needs to be directed to understanding the do’s and don’ts under the new law.

Red Wind,

The same argument has been made about allowing conceal carry which has been proven to be totally untrue. Texas has a ways to go to learn this.
 
Red Wind,

The same argument has been made about allowing conceal carry which has been proven to be totally untrue. Texas has a ways to go to learn this.

You know that and I know that but those lib Editorial Boards just have to stoke those flames. They'll never admit the problems with so called "gun violence" is with criminals, not law abiding citizens. Their agenda is a broken record with not a word of truth, appealing to Useful Idiots to just please get in some "common sense" gun laws.

They make me regurgitate with their constant lies and hysterical hype. :evil:
 
At least they are asking for calm and not to burdened HPD with needless man with a gun calls.

I said they were doing fairly well until they got to their liberal rant about "commonsense gun laws" and warning the masses of the next inevitable "tragedy".

They're hapless Progressive loons.
 
Old joke:

"911, what is your emergency?"

"Send the police out right away ! I just saw a man carrying a gun !"

"Yes, ma'am, but what's he doing that's illegal?"
 
To the editors, columnists, and reporters of almost every single newsrag in the U.S., "modest restrictions on legal access to firearms" means that no one but police (and criminals who need them to make a living) are allowed to own firearms.

That is what those far left wing "progressive" bliss ninnies call "a few common sense gun control laws."

They never change.

L.W.
 
I think open carry is a lot less of a big deal than people think. I've open carried a few times and no one ever said anything to me or seemed nervous as far as I could tell. (I am in an urban northwest city, very anti-gun at the ballot box)

I think the anti-gunners have actually talked up gun laws to such a degree that people on the street assume I was personally authorized by the president to carry, if anything. I mean they wouldn't just let some random guy have a gun would they?
 
There are definitely two sides to the open carry debate. This op-ed piece in the Salt Lake Tribune by an over the top anti-gun free lance writer succinctly articulates the fear and suspicion experienced by someone who is not familiar with or comfortable with firearms. The Reader Replies do a good job of articulating the opposing view. Both sides have some valid points.

Link to Salt Lake Tribune op-ed article http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/3162180-155/op-ed-we-need-more-than-luck

Personally I don't understand the motivation for giving up the advantage of a potential adversary not knowing you are armed. So even if I were in an area that allowed open carry I would use that option on a very limited basis. But that is a choice we are all free to make if we are in an area that allows open carry.
 
The author does not come across as anti-gun so much as afraid of guns (and mass shooters) and put off by what she perceived as an immature swaggering pair of men who disrupted her pleasant ice cream outing with her daughter. It's a valuable insight into the reactions of many people whose primary exposure to firearms is in the context of grim news of mass shootings, of which they are more afraid than the dangers for which self-defense guns are carried in the first place (muggings, car jacking, knock-out "games," armed robberies, rape, etc.). In other words, she feels quite safe in her community EXCEPT when she sees guns carried openly by non-police, due to a fear of a mass shooting. Her reaction is likely very widespread in safe-seeming areas of the country. As long as this is the case, calls for more gun restrictions will find support among many people.
 
My mom is an anti-gun hard core Democrat that always tries to qualify her protests with "I grew up with guns, but . . . ". Same with an aunt of mine.

I swear my mom was going to have a heart attack when the law was passed for open carry here in Texas. She was in fear of everyone in the state open carrying.

I had to tell her that the law only allows CHL holders to open carry and that not all CHL holders are going to use the option. So, while the percentage of open carriers will be magnified (and possibly vilified) by the press, the actual number or practicing open carriers is expected to be very, very low.

In Harris County (where the Chronicle is located), the percentage of CHL holders is only something like 0.004% of the rest of the population. Figure that a minority of that percentage would even open carry.

This calmed my mom down for that conversation. I figure this whole thing will essentially be a non-event once the "new" wears off.
 
Police are allowed to stop someone openly carrying a handgun to check for identification and a gun license

That hardly creates a reasonable suspicion that a person does not have a license to carry.

Police don't stop every car on the road because the driver may not be licensed.
 
They might stop every car if there were only one or two cars on the road a day, that's basically how common it's going to be.
 
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