effort in liverpool, UK, to 'get guns off our streets!!'

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http://www.radiocity.co.uk/Article.asp?PT=In+Rhys's+Name...&id=467136


i caught on to this because my wife is from liverpool. in a nutshell, poor 11 year old kid Rhys gets flat out randomly murdered on the way home by a teenager who shoots him in the neck. the teen has not been caught. it's a horrible tragedy, but the public response is equally as tragic. if there is any one country where the population seems simply incapable of putting responsibility for actions where on and whom they belong, it's england. read the articles on the link. they simply seem to have forgotten about the killer, and now it's all about the supply of guns. their rising violent crime problem will not be solved...period.
 
really odd, seems the "campaign" consists of people posting the words "get guns of our streets" on the internet.

holy armchair athletes batman!
 
I can't work this one up myself, but I wouldn't mind seeing one of those barred circles with a gun it in, then a big equals sign, then one of those barred circles with a brain it it.

EDIT: Nah, I take this one back. May be a mixed message there. Highlight the above to read it.
 
I guess that folks from Liverpool are buying these guns in Virginia (since everyone "knows" that they have "lax" gun control laws), and then smuggling them into England. There would be no guns on the streets of Liverpool if Virginia had "reasonable" gun control laws. :barf:

(Hey, you never know when the folks in England will steal a page from the DC idiots.)
 
For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone with a spine would live in the UK anymore. I'd get the hell out of there if I was living there, because the overwhelming 1984-style campaign to end individualism would drive me insane.
 
I hope this is not heading into an England-bashing-fest, but, agreed, it sure seems to me that any spirit of independence and self-reliance is disappearing there.

I watch a few English TV shows once in a while, and they seem to have gotten more and more insipid over the years --which, presumably, reflects the developing culture.

One of the ones I get some yocks over is that "Rosemary and Thyme" show where the two ladies are sort of garden consultants and they solve crimes which "happen" to occur while on their consulting jobs.

In one of these, the guilty party held a blowgun on the two ladies from about ten feet away while they chatted about how the crime was done. This guilty party kept pointing it back and forth at the two ladies, "covering" both, so to speak, and in the meantime removing it from her mouth to speak to them and explain how she had committed the crime.

Zounds! Gadzooks!

I still chuckle over that one.

Emma Peale, where are you when we need you?

(Dame Diana Rigg as Emma Peale in The Avengers ca 1965-ish.)
 
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I don't think ccw or access to handguns would help in anyway in this specific case. Not like its stops armed gangs in the US.
get armed gangster scumbags and there illegal guns off the streets isn't nearly as good a motto.
to be sure some of our gun control mouths froth at the mouth about legal gun
owners, but then there are no spokespersons from crack gangster inc visible.
gun ownership was never a mass participation sport issue in the uk no right to hunt one of the reasons. SO most people won't have handled a real firearm or know someone who owns one.
so not a political issue
 
Obviously England needs more gun control laws. Send Michael Bloomberg!

Edit to add an interesting viewpoint from across the pond. Pull quote:

Why is it, even after the Virginia Tech massacre, that Americans still resist calls for more gun controls? The short answer is that “gun controls” do not work: they are indeed generally perverse in their effects.
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*sigh* they may eventually "get it". Unfortunately many more innocents like Rhys will die before then.
 
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Didn't anyone stop to consider that the victim may have been the next Hitler and that his killer was sent from the future? The only way we can stop violence from the future is to get guns off our streets today. :rolleyes:
 
Why would anyone oppose a campaign to get guns off the street?

There is no benefit to having guns on the street where they are unprotected from the rain, snow, and the inevitable filth that accumulates on any street. A passerby who sees a gun on the street has no way to know how long it has been there or whether it has been properly maintained.

It also is impossible to determine at a glance whether the gun might be easily restored to proper functioning without stopping to retrieve it. Think about the effect on traffic flow if people dash onto the streets to examine guns left there. There's more than enough traffic congestion in our major cities without the increased congestion that would be caused by allowing guns to accumulate on their streets.

Consider also the damage caused to vehicles that would drive over guns on the streets. People spend countless sums of money to repair damage to the undercarriage resulting from potholes, which are depressions in the streets. Every gun on the street is likely to produce similar damage as the car rides over that gun. Guns on the street are likely to cause even more damage than potholes because, unlike potholes, guns are not affixed to the streets and therefore can leap up when a vehicle wheel moves over it. A vehicle travelling at a higher rate of speed might spin a gun left on the streets into the vehicle immediately behind it or into oncoming traffic.

For all those reasons we should support any campaign to get guns off the streets and into the hands of responsible gun owners where they belong.
 
I hope this is not heading into an England-bashing-fest
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Too late.

So, who here actually wants kids and wannabe gangsters waving guns around because they think it looks cool? By 'guns on the streets', did you think they were referring to responsible adult gun owners?

I don't care when people criticize UK gun laws, as I think they're misguided, ineffective and totalitarian. I DO care when people grasp at straws. I mean, one lame TV show reflecting Britian? Are you all a bunch of metrosexual girlymen who devote your lives to the message in Queer Eye for the Straight Guy?

I'm disappointed to see this nonense on THR. If you want rambling Brit bashing, try Glocktalk.
 
hop, quite right.

carl, yes, but everyone admits that gun control has no impact on crime. Even Tony Blair admitted that banning handguns would have no impact on crime but that it was important to destroy the "gun culture" in the UK.

No difference here in the States. Sarah Brady readily admits that criminals will always have guns. On both sides of the pond the elite want to control the peasantry, not the criminals.
 
Speaking of guns on the streets- I have been going around watching for a Webley-Fosberry or at least a Mauser C96 on the sidewalk for years. After all this time I am convinced that guns on the streets are, like the alligators in the sewers, an urban myth.
 
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