Expansion Industries Primers

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Hold on…you’re saying they are actually manufacturing primers in their plant In Texas? That plant wasn’t even finished the last we heard here on this forum just last week. So making primers not selling imported ones?

I find it extraordinarily hard to believe and will look into it further. Will call the local newspaper & BBB to see what’s what. I’m not at all intending to cast aspersions on any messengers.
We've been hearing so many different things for a while, but this is an ammo manufacturer with a large dollar investment in the plant. Now, before last Saturday I didn't know this guy from Adam, but seemed fully in the know.
I can believe that the plant isn't FULLY finished, but I was told it's operating, and small manufacturers are receiving invites for a plant tour/inspection. They may well sell imported primers, since all of their 1st year of FULL production is already pre-sold, so they have nothing available for retail buyers. Again...2nd hand information. At least I didn't get it off the internet...not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
This is where regionality comes into play: because I live in "beef country" ground beef is cheaper at my local grocer than ground turkey. Ground turkey is in lower demand, there are fewer turkey farms than cattle farms, there are more chicken farms but because the export of chickens pays better than the export of cows, ground chicken is also more expensive then ground beef. Applying that to reloading components is why powder, primers and bullets are harder to find and more expensive when found where I live than as reported by a plurality of other posters. Here's the kicker: while "cheap cuts" of beef around here are in the $3-$5/pound range, the more desirable cuts - filet, sirloin, flat iron, strip/eye/loin, even chuck roast - are in the $10-$12/pound range because the market for those cuts outside this area is paying better. Similarly, pork butts are cheap; pork loins are pricey. The locals export the choice parts for as much as they can get and leave the stuff "city folk" don't know about or don't want to us locals. Same for ammo - can't find .30-30, .357Magnum or .38Spl for under a buck-a-shot but 45¢/shot .40S&W and .22LR are already back on the shelves in abundance. Why is .40S&W the same price-point as .22LR? Beats me. Demand, maybe? I know there's folks out there already seeing 55¢ primers and $29/pound powders locally but not here. Regionality, just like gas, housing and food.

We have the poultry up here—Shenandoah Valley & eastern shore Maryland:)

I really enjoy stories like yours describing how a real market is functioning and is an example of why a planned economy never works (very well anyway). Like the current baby formula shortage or gasoline price spike, markets will do what they will do. Back in the 80s maybe, Milton Friedman’s book Free to Choose was made into a PBS series. I recall in one episode he held up a simple wooden pencil w/rubber eraser and described how one person couldn’t make the pencil; it took a complex, world-wide market.

For me, the reloading component market is national (internet) only. There used to be some guys who’d come to the gun show from a few hours away, but that dried up.
 
We've been hearing so many different things for a while, but this is an ammo manufacturer with a large dollar investment in the plant. Now, before last Saturday I didn't know this guy from Adam, but seemed fully in the know.
I can believe that the plant isn't FULLY finished, but I was told it's operating, and small manufacturers are receiving invites for a plant tour/inspection. They may well sell imported primers, since all of their 1st year of FULL production is already pre-sold, so they have nothing available for retail buyers. Again...2nd hand information. At least I didn't get it off the internet...not that there's anything wrong with that.
Sending my drone to Texas. I’ll let you know.
 
I remember now last year I found one of the owners (Richard Smissen) had been charged in VA with securities fraud—an ammo investment scheme.

https://scc.virginia.gov/docketsearch/DOCS/3f7h01!.PDF

Sure people can straighten up and fly right but the past can also be prologue.

And in May 2020 Expansion got a ~$1M PPP loan and in applying reported 80 employees. No shame in borrowing money from me provided it’s returned.

https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program/expansion-industries-llc-carrollton-tx

I have contacted the Texarkana Gazette reporter who reported on Expansion Industries last January.

I don’t know why I’m spending this time on this other than I don’t like being played the fool.
 
Expansion Industries. Weren't they selling bulk powder a few years back? Out of the East Coast somewhere?

I seem to remember several folks got burned dealing with them.
Not sure. The Virginia fraud was an investment scheme where people would buy a share in components but not powder specifically. They settled, paid a fine, but admitted no wrongdoing. (And then slipped off to Texas)
 
went to gun show in medina ohio good supply of primers 125.00 per 1k, i think they were old stock being cashed in on.
 
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