Well It’s Spring…How Bout Those Expansion Primers?

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I’m wondering what the plan is for after the demand falls. It does eventually fall, right? I mean, reloaders stock up, ammo buyers fill their bunkers, police agencies go back to routine training and annual inventory… Russian aggression even has its limits. So what’s the plan for peace and stability for these primer makers? Seems like an awful big investment for the short term.

 

[Bush Pilot]

Paging @Mark_Mark he's the foremost expert on primer plant expansions, solutions and vendors!

Good luck finding him. He's a kingpin in the Seattle woke community so he might be hard to locate.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Good luck finding him. He's a kingpin in the Seattle woke community so he might be hard to locate.

Oh he’s there, wrapped in a Pembleton blanket, sitting cross legged on the floor, smoking ganja, and trying to type a legible sentence.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Oh he’s there, wrapped in a Pembleton blanket, sitting cross legged on the floor, smoking ganja, and trying to type a legible sentence.

You’re showing your age. The New Age Wokist wraps themselves in hemp blankets and eats MaryJane baked goods while vaping CBD. They don’t even bother trying to type, they use voice-to-text, and think you’re the one not being coherent.
And, like a stopped digital clock, they are still right at least once a day.

 

[ballman6711]

I’m wondering what the plan is for after the demand falls. It does eventually fall, right? I mean, reloaders stock up, ammo buyers fill their bunkers, police agencies go back to routine training and annual inventory… Russian aggression even has its limits. So what’s the plan for peace and stability for these primer makers? Seems like an awful big investment for the short term.

I don't know about Expansion's future plans and I won't hazard a guess either. That's assuming they are legit and really are going to make primers.

But any ammo maker IMO would be wise to manufacture their own primers if it's financially feasible. They would still be able to outsource primers if needed, but having the ability to make their own makes them less susceptible to outside influences. And if done correctly, they could make extra primers to sell to other ammo makers or to the retail market as components, assuming they can acquire the components they need to manufacture them.

chris

 

[Rule3]

OK there was a great announcement about a primer plant to be developed

How long (years, red tape) does it take to actually see product produced??

 

[JFrank]

As far as construction of facilities, expansion of productions, and anything that requires budgets developed in advance will have a tough time moving forward in an economy will high inflation and rising interest rates.
Example; the mechanical, electrical line items are estimated at 1.3 m and money appropriated yet the materials, labor, continue to rise during the construction phase… who pays the difference ? The bank or the builder.

 

[jmorris]

New primer production in the USA.......lt's a mirage.....keep seeping from your canteens. Gotta make it last, , We are not home yet.

You think we will be able to get Norinco primers once China takes over?

Right now I think we get everything except ammunition, firearms, primers and the truth out of them…

 

[higgite]

OK there was a great announcement about a primer plant to be developed

How long (years, red tape) does it take to actually see product produced??

Depends on who made the announcement.

 

[bigpower491]

Reckon we'll have to wait n see if it ever comes to be.
I got enough for awhile

@Charlie98 One never needs an excuse to throw a leg over and go. You should see the looks I get ripping around town on a street legal 98 Honda CR500. I know the people behind me appreciate that 100 octane/Klotz R50 smell...at least I don't choke em with Bean oil

 

[Rule3]

Depends on who made the announcement.

All my hopes and dreams, went down the drain when the off shore shipping container vessel never was allowed to dock!

 

[higgite]

All my hopes and dreams, went down the drain when the off shore shipping container vessel never was allowed to dock!

Do you mean the primers that doubled in price after the vessel carrying them sank on a coral reef in the Bering Strait?

 

[Okie_Poke]

Rather than start a new thread, I figured I'd resurrect this one and ask here: Does anyone have a good sense for why large rifle primers are so hard to find or whether there's an end in sight to their shortage? Although retail prices are up, small rifle primers are obtainable. The only place I've been able to find large rifle primers in a long time, however, is the scalpers on GunBroker. I've weathered this storm relatively well but I'd sure like to replenish my supplies before the next presidential campaign kicks off in full force.

 

[N555]

All the market is going towards small primers.
223/5.56 ammo is the most popular ammo by far for rifle and 9mm pistol.
Small primer 45acp is common now.
308 and 308 based rounds have small primer versions.
I'm buying up ginex primers when I find the price is acceptable. Cheapest I have seen them was $66 per brick a week or 2 ago and that's getting pretty close, but the limit was 2 bricks per customer and their hazmat was kind of high. I want to buy at least 2 cases minimum.

 

[Okie_Poke]

All the market is going towards small primers.

308 and 308 based rounds have small primer versions.

I bought large rifle primer pocket brass for my Creedmoor several years ago because, at the time, I had more large rifle primers than small rifle primers and figured component overlap with my 30 caliber bolt guns was a good thing. I guess I might have to set up a tickler for small rifle primer brass now to keep around as another option. I haven't been looking for that, so I have no idea how often it comes in stock.

 

[jm529]

All the market is going towards small primers.
223/5.56 ammo is the most popular ammo by far for rifle and 9mm pistol.
Small primer 45acp is common now.
308 and 308 based rounds have small primer versions.
I'm buying up ginex primers when I find the price is acceptable. Cheapest I have seen them was $66 per brick a week or 2 ago and that's getting pretty close, but the limit was 2 bricks per customer and their hazmat was kind of high. I want to buy at least 2 cases minimum.

American Reloading has it for $339 a case of 5000 with free hazmat and shipping. That's $68 a thousand shipped.

 

[jm529]

Ordered the small rifle but they sent me the better 556 primers. I guess they have multiple types of small rifle available.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I’m just anxious to see all those primers come pouring out of Hooks Texas.

Any new videos or blogs from the guys shilling for Expansion? Remember the preproduction packages, the tours of the facilities, the guy who knew a guy?

Has anyone heard anything verifiable?

Why do I care? Don’t know, just do.

I love being correct. I called BS on the whole thing the instant I heard $100million had been or would be invested. I just really love being correct.