Extreme Shock Ammo

[PakWaan]

Has anyone tried "Extreme Shock Explosive Entry tactical defense ammo" ?

They bill themselves as the world's most advanced ammunition - started seeing ads lately, but haven't talked to anyone who has used it, and a search of this site brings up no mentions of it.

The manufacturer claims their product has twice the energy transfer of traditional hollow points in human tissue, and it adjusts how quickly it fragments depending on the hardness of the target, i.e. breaks up slower in organic tissue than in walls. They claim a wound channel up to 80 times the size of the original impact wound.

I'd love to know if anyone has tried this stuff.........


http://www.extremeshockusa.com

 

[Preacherman]

Pakwaan, anytime you see any ammo manufacturer claiming that they've developed the greatest thing since sliced bread, take a deep breath, murmur "Again?" to yourself in a disdainful voice, and turn the page. There have been any number of such claims, and virtually all of them have been disproved over time.

The good old standard-type rounds that equip our police forces today have been tested in action (not in clay, not in ballistic gelatin, not in goats, but against human targets that were shooting back!). Look to see whether the ammo. for which such egregious claims are being made has any sort of "street" record available. I'm not speaking only of sources such as Marshall & Sanow, but also Fackler, autopsy reports, etc. Your local police and sheriff's departments are useful sources of information, if you can develop a close relationship with the firearms instructor types. Another good source of information is the local coroner, if he/she has to deal with lots of shooting-related autopsies.

If these rounds were as deadly effective as they claim, you can bet your pension that our law enforcement agencies would all equip themselves with the stuff in short order, followed soon after by the demise of all criminals who challenged them. Since this ain't happening, draw your own conclusions...

(Of course, if you know that you're going to be attacked by a rabid block of clay, or a viciously quivering piece of ballistic gelatin, then these advertisements are unquestionably the place to look to find the best round with which to defend yourself! )

 

[jc2]

Try this link for a qualified professional evaluation:

http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum78/HTML/000283.html

 

[243_shooter]

I don't have a clue about the ammo, but there website sucks

Leo

 

[PakWaan]

Thanks for the link - I hadn't seen that forum before, either. The first place I found that looked good was TFL, and after a couple hours spent pouring through information, I figured out it was shut down Then I found THR

I guess I'll stick with my Gold Dots.....

 

[Kalindras]

This stuff is possibly the most perfect example...

...of Reactionary Marketing, that I've ever seen. It makes use of three sure-fire winners:

1. It plays upon the recent emotion, following 9/11--"The World's Premier Anti-Terrorist Ammunition!". According to what quoted, reputable sources? I'll wager if I were able to ask cross-section of anti-terrorist Rapid-Response Teams, I'd get a, "Huh? What?" response from at least 90% of them. Of the remaining 10%, probably half would snicker, and the other half would get all quiet and blush.

2. It looks nasty--a' la "The BLACK TALON" Mystique. If Winchester can get rich and famous by serrating the tips of THEIR ammo, then we can get RICHER and MORE FAMOUS by making ours look like a Jack-O-Lantern on quaaludes! Never mind that the stuff is guaranteed to jam in practically anything more touchy than a Ruger revolver--it looks menacing, and that counts, when you're face-to-face with a crazed, bomb-wielding zealot at 35,000 feet.

3. It's made of Nytrillium. Never mind that no one ever actually says what Nytrillium is--or that it sounds like something out of RED DWARF--it sounds rare, and they have lots of numbers with percent signs after it, so it must be cool!! Of course, what they won't mention is that your wife's/Mom's/Grandma's stockings were ALSO made of Nytrillium...and think how cool it looks on HER! Now, this is not to discount the crime deterrent value of Nytrillium, especially when wrapped around the vericose veins of a 60+ year-old...just making the point that we might better understand the chemical properties of the material, if it could be somehow described, chemically.

Beyond these major pluses, all I really see from these guys is a solid entry in the "Most annoyingly-designed, least informative, and hardest to read" Website category. And all this for only about $3 a cartridge!!

 

[TheMariner]

Hehe... that stuff looked like a joke... and some of the impacts they showed looked like something you would get after you punched an .45 loaded with C4 into a clay block... I've seen sling shots do the same thing with rocks.