Fal or .308 Piston driven Ar-15's such as the REPER?

[danny.t.2414]

First things first sorry for the spelling error in the title it's a R.E.P.R from LWRC a .308 piston drivin AR-10 requested specifically from Special Forces for their op's. It's now in Civilian style semi auto for $3,500 roughly compared to the FAL that's been around for awhile & is only $1,200-$2,000 roughly, and that's mostly where my delima is at is the price for 2 great rifles.

I have a few gun's that are on my lists to get soon & have been asking for people's oppinion's on them but they've all been on smaller caliber's such as the Ak 47 just because it's cheap & I could get it with in two months.

My all around rifle I really want though is some type of piston .308 Tacticle rifle for all around purpose such as the Fal or REPR, even though they are more expensive for just about everything.

What are you're guy's oppinion's on these rifle's & what type of accessories would you put on each one so I can have some idea's about which way to lean?

 

[W.E.G.]

FAL is a classic - forever.

REPER??? - just a footnote in the boring history of latest-greatest.

From a COLLECTOR'S perspective the REPER is already forgotten.

 

[allfouledup]

It's a classic alright. And just as simple as a AK.

 

[HorseSoldier]

FAL

First things first sorry for the spelling error in the title it's a R.E.P.R from LWRC a .308 piston drivin AR-10 requested specifically from Special Forces for their op's.

I think it's more the case that LWRC tried to market it to the SOF community, not that the SOF community came asking LWRC to make something for them.

 

[MCMXI]

I have both so it kind of makes it tough to vote. However, based on accuracy, magazine availability and trigger availability, I'd choose the AR308 gas piston platform. Luckily, I don't have to choose between the two or even the M1A Scout so it's all good.

 

[Quiet]

FAL = right arm of the free world.

First things first sorry for the spelling error in the title it's a R.E.P.R from LWRC a .308 piston drivin AR-10 requested specifically from Special Forces for their op's.

US SOCOM uses the (direct impingment) Mk 11 Mod 0 [KAC SR-25], (gas-piston) Mk 14 Mod 0 (NSWC Crane M-14) and (gas-piston) Mk 17 Mod 0 (FN SCAR-H).

The UK Military recently adopted the (direct impingment) LMT MWS-308 over the (gas-piston) H&K HK-417, (gas-piston) LWRC REPR and (gas-piston) FN SCAR-H. The LMT MWS-308 proved to be more accurate than the other rifles.

 

[Robert]

FAL.

 

[Hammerhead6814]

The AR-10 will be more accurate. FAL's are battle rifles first and foremost. Meaning, expect AKM accuracy. AR-10's on the other hand have produced some impressive groups.

 

[stubbicatt]

For most purposes I would select the FAL given the choice.

 

[G27RR]

I'd go AR, but for a LaRue OBR rather than a piston model.

 

[db_tanker]

FAL

and if you go with most of the goodies available for the FAL, then you can get some pretty impressive groups as well. but as a previous poster said, AKM accuracy, mebbe a bit better depending on the build.


to each their own.

 

[danny.t.2414]

Well I went for the FAL & I've done a ton of research on both the FAL & the AK & I think I'm going to build a FAL from a parts kit & if I can do that any good then I'm going to build myself an AK. Then the next rifle I buy is either going to be a FAL Para model so I can deck it out with AR 10 stuff as well, or a REPR from LWRC.

 

[Motega]

I just picked up my DSA SA58 TODAY and I really like it. I'll post a range report on my other thread "DSA SA58 Build" early next week. I'm glad I went with a FAL it feels really great. Hope it shoots as nice as it looks and handles!

View as a slideshow it looks much better that way.


http://photobucket.com/SA58

 

[danny.t.2414]

I just picked up my DSA SA58 TODAY and I really like it. I'll post a range report on my other thread "DSA SA58 Build" early next week. I'm glad I went with a FAL it feels really great. Hope it shoots as nice as it looks and handles!

View as a slideshow it looks much better that way.


http://photobucket.com/SA58

Very Very nice!! I like it! Where did you get those little rails on the side of the forearm? did they come with it?

I have a big heavy quad rail on mine & it's not very practical because it added a good 3 to 4 lbs. to the front, so those little rails look like they'd be way better.

 

[SentinelStrategic]

I would recommend going with a POF-USA P308 for a piston AR. The LWRCi is a fantastic rifle too, but POF has a lot more in circulation and they seem to be doing a lot more with innovation and constant on-going development. Case in point- the Hunter/Sniper rail:

I think it's more the case that LWRC tried to market it to the SOF community, not that the SOF community came asking LWRC to make something for them.

Exactly.

US SOCOM uses the (direct impingment) Mk 11 Mod 0 [KAC SR-25], (gas-piston) Mk 14 Mod 0 (NSWC Crane M-14) and (gas-piston) Mk 17 Mod 0 (FN SCAR-H).

Yep.
The new direct competitor for the REPR that NAVSPECWARGRU is currently, and eventually all of SOCOM will be using is the Mk20 Mod0, which is the FN SCAR SSR.

 

[HavelockLEO]

I have both the FAL and an M1A and dabbled in the .308 AR area for a little bit. I had a DPMS 308AP4.
I'll stick with my FAL and M1A, more from the economic stand point (at the time anyway, Magpul magazines werent out yet) since the manufacturers magazines were pretty expensive and I really didnt want another rifle to have support, and buying the usual spares for a proprietary system isnt cheap or viable when youre trying to get yourself out of debt.
I'll stick with what I know and maybe one day I'll get my hands on a Larue OBR .308.

 

[goon]

FWIW - every FAL I've owned has shot better than almost every AK I've ever shot.
The ONLY exception was a VEPR K .223, which shot incredible groups for a rifle of that type under the improvized circumstances I tested it in - and most of us would agree that a VEPR K isn't exactly "just an AK."

My current DSA will shoot surplus into groups from about 1.5 inches at 100 yards (Para rear sight, standard front) down to under an inch with a little luck. Handloads... generally just under an inch when I hold it steady. But out of three FAL's, none of them were more than around 2.5 inches at 100 yards with any ammo I tried in them.
Even the best AK's I've owned and shot (in 7.62x39) were around 3" grouping rifles. My brother has been playing with 7.62x39 handloads recently though, so that may change at some point.

 

[gunnutery]

The REPR seems like a nice gun, but way over priced IMO. Plus the FAL is iconic.

 

[SentinelStrategic]

If you decide on a FAL, make sure you do it right and get a DSA.

 

[Zerodefect]

Larue OBR. Best semi auto .308 out there.


Lmt .308 is a close second, and may serve some peoples purposes a bit better.

 

[LegalAlien]

FAL all the way bro . ..

I cut my teeth on the South African R1 clone back in the late 60's and it was uber reliable.

I know the AR platform - gas or piston - is also a well proven platform (I have an AR15), but for a .308 (7.62x51) rifle, I would go back to a trusty FAL any day - and it would be a DSA