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[Acera]

You guys are feeding the safety troll.

Bet he would be horrified to learn that my daily carry does not have an external safety or even sights, LOL. (From the factory that way.)

Some of us are competent enough to handle such things safely, while some folks don't believe themselves or others have that ability.


My advice to those, don't buy a Glock, they are not for made for your type. Go participate in other threads where you are not so prejudiced and biased from the start.

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[JohnKSa]

My statement should be, "where is the external safety on the Glock pistol?"

The external safety on the Glock is called the trigger safety and is visible on the front of the trigger.

Perhaps I should clarify my statements concerning a safety on the Glock.

I don't think anyone has any doubt about what you're trying to say. The issue isn't that anyone is confused, it's that because you're uninformed on the topic, you can't manage to say exactly what you want to say. That and when you try to back up your claims with facts, the facts you post are not really facts at all.

What you obviously want to say is that the Glock doesn't have a MANUAL safety. Now, at least, you can get the terms right when you decided to play your little game in the future.

That's step one.

Step two is that if you're going to try to support your claim that the lack of a manual safety is a design problem, you need to actually do so with facts, not obvious mis-statements. In other words, you're going to have to actually learn about the topics you want to talk about if you want to sound credible.

That's actually a recipe for success in most areas, not just about the Glock safety system. One should learn to speak the "language" of the subject which one wishes to talk about and should become educated on the topic. That will allow a person to converse intelligently and, more importantly, will let a person know when they have exhausted their store of knowledge and needs to stop talking to avoid sounding like a fool.

 

[Old Guy]

When I heard that the slides were coming off the first issue of G17M pistols, during dry fire exercises? I thought again! Last time it was Limp Wrists?
What now, holding it too tight?

The triggers have the smooth surface, not lined. Same as the #42/43 models.
Good idea.

I have both 42/43, good wee pistols. Do I carry either? No. Glock 19 for me.

An interesting fault with the Glock triggers, you can seize up the trigger, say picking the pistol up, from a table/bench, and instead of pulling the trigger directly to the rear, straight front to back, you push the trigger to the left, and then exert pressure to the rear, it will not allow you to fire a round, it seizes up.

To try this, take magazine from your Glock G19, for instance, rack slide 3 times, if 3 rounds are ejected? You did not take the magazine out!

Slide locked back physically make sure the pistol is safe. Lower slide, aiming your Glock in a safe direction, press the trigger...CLICK!

Rack slide again, same safe direction, now exert pressure, to the left, and try to dry fire your pistol! No can do. This has never happened to me, but it has happened. To cure this, if you are competent in totally stripping your Glock down, do so, with your dissembled trigger mechanism in your hand, look at the little safety piece in the center of the trigger, you will notice two little raised lines, on that movable piece, with a sharp blade, remove them.

Fixed, even if it has never happened to you, and you also have not removed the safety activator.

 

[JohnKSa]

An interesting fault with the Glock triggers, you can seize up the trigger, say picking the pistol up, from a table/bench, and instead of pulling the trigger directly to the rear, straight front to back, you push the trigger to the left, and then exert pressure to the rear, it will not allow you to fire a round, it seizes up.

That's by design. The trigger is not supposed to allow movement if there is significant lateral pressure (pressure from the side) applied.

https://us.glock.com/technology

"The trigger safety is designed to protect against firing if the pistol is dropped or the trigger is subjected to lateral pressure."​

 

[Old Guy]

John, that might be so, but many, many times Glocks have been dropped, not enough weight anywhere to cause a discharged.

The push laterally? Is what will get you killed! You will cause the trigger not to work! And you will die! Because human nature being what it is? You will just keep pulling it! And no bang. The armorer will examine your pistol, and give it a pass! Nothing wrong with it.

If there are witnesses..."He was shaking and pointing. His gun never went off"
I think it has happened! But not diagnosed.

 

[JohnKSa]

...many, many times Glocks have been dropped, not enough weight anywhere to cause a discharged.

They don't discharge when dropped because they have safeties designed to prevent it.

There IS enough combined weight in the trigger/striker system to cause a discharge without the safeties. The post in the link below explains why and how.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=10179831&postcount=48

A Glock that is dropped from 4 feet and lands muzzle up will discharge without a trigger safety.

The push laterally? Is what will get you killed! You will cause the trigger not to work! And you will die! Because human nature being what it is? You will just keep pulling it! And no bang.

This has never happened to me...

Not to you and not to anyone else either...

I'm not going to claim it absolutely can't happen, but I've tried to lock up the trigger on half a dozen Glocks using your recipe and had absolutely zero success. In fact, not only does it not lock it up, there's no hint that the trigger is binding on anything and even maintaining a lot of sideways pressure on the trigger with one finger doesn't seem to hinder trigger action in the least if it's pulled to the rear with a second finger while the other finger maintains sideways pressure.

If you manage to maintain sideways pressure on the trigger SAFETY, then you might be able get the trigger to bind, but (assuming you're only using one finger to do this) it can only be done with a finger halfway onto the trigger so that it's not actually applying rearward pressure to the trigger safety. Since the gun won't fire without applying rearward pressure to the trigger safety it's hard to say that the trigger is not working because of sideways pressure or because the trigger safety isn't being depressed.

 

[Zerodefect]

The trigger safety on a Glock is a drop safety. The striker safety blocks the striker as well.

You can't get any more drop safe than a Glock. Maybe a 1911 with a similar firing pin block.

 

[tercel89]

This is Glock perfection and my carry gun. The Glock 17 Gen 2 . No finger grooves , front of grip is cut out from the factory for stripping out mags in a hurry , 2 pin frame , just simple and reliable. Very few parts .