A completely useless CYA on their part.Kurt D said:CYA move on their part.
A completely useless CYA on their part.
I've not heard an excuse for this practice yet that makes any kind of sense to me.
If he doesn't have any money in it, he's not gonna lose anything when the law tracks it down and recovers it. If he doesn't know it's stolen, how is he in trouble? If he sells it on, he shows the cops his bound book entry and 4473 and they go talk to the buyer. I'm not sure how this can cause trouble.mgkdrgn said:1) A stolen or illegal firearm. Now the FFL either has stolen/illegal goods on his books, or has a firearm that he does not own -not- on his books.
Federal law allows shipment back to the owner w/o the services of an FFL on the original senders end. It's covered under 'repairs'. Whether this happens is between the receiving FFL and the seller.mgkdrgn said:2) A firearm meant for someone who, for whatever reason, can't have that firearm in their state. Now he's stuck with a firearm he can't sell, and can't ship back to the sender, and has no way to recover his costs if he ships back to another FFL for the seller.
A completely useless CYA on their part.
I've not heard an excuse for this practice yet that makes any kind of sense to me.
If he doesn't have any money in it, he's not gonna lose anything when the law tracks it down and recovers it.
Yeah, I've heard this story, too. When I heard it, it was not an AR. The whole juxtaposition of alleged events (no matter what weapon is involved) spells S-E-T-U-P to me, anyway.mgkdrgn said:Ya ... tell that to the FFL who had an individual ship to him an AR that had been altered to full auto. Guy wasn't even in his shop when it arrived, hired help opened the box and put it on the bench.
Friendly ATF agent walks in for a surprise visit, full auto gun with no paperwork, no more FFL and a nightmare of legal expenses to try and stay out of jail. (this is from a previous thread about the case here on THR)
Yeah, I've heard this story, too. When I heard it, it was not an AR. The whole juxtaposition of alleged events (no matter what weapon is involved) spells S-E-T-U-P to me, anyway.
This is the problem with society today.mgkdrgn said:In any case, to accept arms shipments as an FFL from a non FFL (we are talking here about an individual about which you know next to nothing) strikes me as a real "pig in a poke" deal.
This is the problem with society today.
No trust in your fellow man.
A mans word ain't worth the hot air used to utter it.
'nuff sed
who had an individual ship to him an AR that had been altered to full auto. Guy wasn't even in his shop when it arrived, hired help opened the box and put it on the bench.
Outcome would have likely been the same if it came from a FFL.