FFL Transfer Fees

[mgkdrgn]

How are you sure about this? Maybe he undertook those expenses with the plans to solely transfer firearms and take special orders, with very low inventory to keep the overhead low.

Waterhouse,

That was kinda the plan, ya. Wouldn't mind having a small inventory of good used guns to sell ... but being able to buy them such that you can resell them at any profit at all is a whole 'nuther story. Lots and lots of "rusty pipes" out there that folks swear are gold plated ....

 

[Acera]

DAVIDSDIVAD, Where do you live on the Texas coast. I am sure we can find someone reasonable within a short drive for you.

Is that legal??

Why would it not be? I've got pdf's of a couple of FFLs on my computer I just email when I want a gun transferred, just BCC the FFL so he knows something for me is coming.

 

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

I'm in Crapus... I mean Corpus Christi at the moment.

There is a decent gun store in Alice, TX that I've considered using.


As to the legality thing, I'd left my brain on the coat rack.

 

[hotshotshoting]

yes its legal it just exposes the ffl holder to a bit more liability than i am interested in having... ps its enough of a liability to own a gunshop at this point in time

 

[freakshow10mm]

I wouldn't want my FFL floating around. I only send to other FFLs.

 

[CoRoMo]

Now I'm curious...

He hands out copies of his FFL.... Just means he ain't been "burned" yet.

...it just exposes the ffl holder to a bit more liability...

I wouldn't want my FFL floating around. I only send to other FFLs.

What type of liability? Burned how?

I'm guessing that, you'd prefer that guns not come in, out of the blue, from a source you are unfamiliar with, and that all transfers come from another dealer rather than the gun coming straight from a private party. Beyond that, what has to happen for the FFL holder to get 'burned' or to get in trouble? What type of scenario would harm the FFL holder?

 

[docpadds]

Basically we end up with guns coming in, if we cannot document where they came from then we have a problem. The bound book must list a name and address and believe it or not some will send in a gun with zero info...

We have to take every step we can to make sure thats a genuine name and address.

 

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

What if someone modified the FFL in photoshop to have their address?

 

[docpadds]

Thats what EZCheck is for. Our internal process requires us to punch their number into this system and it shows the address the ATF has on file.

-Jonathan

 

[CoRoMo]

Okay, so my question is what types of problems does this cause you? Are you in violation of the law when you receive a firearm from a source you can't verify? Or does it just look bad when the ATF comes by to look through your bound book? Or is there some other type of consequences you open yourself up to?

 

[docpadds]

Really getting a wrist slap these days is risking a loss of license and much worse. There are few allowances for bad record keeping, in the end its the core of what we are required to do.

We are required to keep this information and as such most of us err on the side of caution and get every last piece of trace info we can.

Silly as it seems, but as written they can revoke licenses for this sort of thing and worse enforcement can be in the form of charges against the licensee. (There are moves to make it more sensible).

 

[dogtown tom]

CoRoMo Okay, so my question is what types of problems does this cause you? Are you in violation of the law when you receive a firearm from a source you can't verify? Or does it just look bad when the ATF comes by to look through your bound book? Or is there some other type of consequences you open yourself up to?

A nonlicensee shipping me a firearm without a copy of his drivers license is no more trouble than an FFL who ships without a copy of his license.

I handle both situations exactly the same- I won't transfer the firearm until I have the documents I require.

In the last year I've had only a few nonlicensees forget to include a drivers license copy, but I've had a number of FFL's who did not do so. Although ATF regulations do not require the shipping FFL to include a copy, it is considered a courtesy and good business practice among firearms dealers to do so.

 

[CoRoMo]

Thank you.