newfalguy101
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Sure........
You must remember to start off with “ Hi, my name is newfalguy101 and I’m an..........
First ar
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stillquietvoice
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No short stroking it ran perfectly.
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You must remember to start off with “ Hi, my name is newfalguy101 and I’m an..........
OK so when we have an intervention we all meet at the range with 1k of ammo.
GunnyUSMC
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I have enough for 15 intervention range trips.
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stillquietvoice
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Doctor I need another intervention I' mean range trip.
Hokie_PhD
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I plan to do less building and more shooting when I retire.
This should inspire some of you to build more.
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Gunny two things.
One I always love this pic
But you also need to take a new updated one
And two, when I do my AR fami,y pic, (after I finish the current build which I finally may have figured out) it’s only going to have three for now. The PSA I put together from a lower and upper, the 3 gun rifle I built from scratch and documented her, and the current build. Well those and the few more stripped lowers sitting in a box that I got on sale that will eventually become ARs.
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GunnyUSMC
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An updated photo?
Hell, I just took that one in November.Ejection pattern won't tell you if your AR is gassed right or not, especially if you don't have the right extractor and ejector spring installed. If your AR does not have Colt or Sprinco springs there's a good chance you don't have the right springs.
If you still believe the ejection chart works, get an adjustable gas block and use the ejection pattern to tune your AR and [see] how well that works.
Edited to add an important word that was left out.
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Hokie_PhD
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An updated photo?
That’s six months! Or a bunch of ARs in Gunny years!
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I thought the practice for adjusting the gas was to use an adjustable gas block with minimal gas with one round in the mag, test fire a round and check for the bolt to hold open, adjust more gas a 1/4 turn and repeat until it holds open then adjust an extra 1/4 turn.
Am I missing something or is the pattern an alternative method?
That's the gist of it. Note there is no mention of checking ejection angle.
Personally, I start with the gas open enough to ensure full function. Then, I cut of the gas until the AR ejects but doesn't lock back. Then, I increase gas flow one click (one third turn on an SLR gas block) and verify full function.
This method prevents cases getting stuck in the chamber.
When I first started experimenting with ARs, I helped a friend try to tune his AR with an adjustable gas block using the ejection angle. The results were unsatisfactory. It didn't occur to me until later that the way we tuned the gas for a FAL was to adjust the gas until it would just lock back, then add a couple clicks for good measure. The experience drove home the fact that trying to read ejection angle to determine proper gas drive was was no more reliable than reading tea leaves.
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I plan to do less building and more shooting when I retire.
This should inspire some of you to build more.
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That's about like my brother. He says he is gun poor.
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GunnyUSMC
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The one on the right looks like a 229. That would be half of 458.
adcoch1
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Oh I can assure you, it is a FULL 458!The one on the right looks like a 229. That would be half of 458.
Hokie_PhD
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I’m pretty sure that Gunny was being funny based on the physical size!
adcoch1
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Yeah, it is pint sized, but it packs a wallop. I actually need a better pistol grip on it, the standard a2 style was never designed for that much recoil. Gonna put a magpul k2 on there and see how that does...
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stillquietvoice
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Thanks for the chart. If I may ask why you would prefer a slightly over gassed Ar?
Maybe I should have asked in a pm to avoid argument.
Maybe I should have asked in a pm to avoid argument.
troy fairweather
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over gas is better if there is some dirt or debris in the gun, there a better chance it won't have a malfunction.
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stillquietvoice
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Makes sense thanks.
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stillquietvoice
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I'm trying to learn everything I can abouty new platform.
GunnyUSMC
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I have also found that in extreme cold weather a slightly over gassed rifle will run better.
But the main reason is the one stated by Troy.
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What else should I look for during cleaning, profiting inspection?
troy fairweather
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you will see the dirty spots pretty quick when cleaning. mostly around the bolt and gas key, the gas tube. if you shoot a lot you will get build up and need to scrape it off. most ar guys will run the gun wet, others will only lube moving parts sparingly. i like wet, it seams to help with cleaning later on. i use good 10w-30 oil. there are some specialty cleaning tools for the ar's to help with cleaning, a m-16 cleaning kit is a good start. they make tools for scraping the carbon off the bolt parts to.
GunnyUSMC
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I like to run a new gun a little on the wet side. After a few hundred rounds I'll wipe it dry and lightly lube. I have found that some guns run better wet and others will run great when almost dry. The problem with running one wet is that trash, carbon and dirt like to cling to the oil.
Never stick a Q-tip in the gas key on your bolt carrier, that is what pipe cleaners are for.
They make spacial pipe cleaners for the gas tube. Don't waste your money on them.
Don't go crazy trying to keep your rifle super clean. It will take just one round to get it dirty again.
Never stick a Q-tip in the gas key on your bolt carrier, that is what pipe cleaners are for.
They make spacial pipe cleaners for the gas tube. Don't waste your money on them.
Don't go crazy trying to keep your rifle super clean. It will take just one round to get it dirty again.
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