TimboKhan
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Bailey, I honestly am not trying to argue with you, and I appreciate the points, but you again ignore exactly what I said, and I still think that I am reading the law correctly. Let me qoute my exact example:
Notice, I make no mention of a carry permit. Like I say, I let mine lapse, and I think we covered that ground satisfactorily already anyway.
Notice I specifically state "loaded handgun". I believe that I am completely correct when I say that I would be breaking the law by carrying my loaded handgun in my truck onto school grounds, because I am overstepping the rules set down in paragraph C. Further, Paragraph D would seem to indicate that it is acceptable to have a loaded handgun on school grounds (in this case) only for self defense, which would not be the case if I was parking and then going in for ten hours. However, that may be splitting hairs, I don't know, and I could probably be convinced to concede that point in principle to you.
What I do know, for certain and without regard to law, is that if a gun was spotted in my truck somehow (which would be impossible where I keep it), and the school was alerted to that, there would be hell to pay, and while I wouldn't necessarily lose my job, I would without a doubt be standing tall in front of the man explaining what I was doing with a gun in my truck on campus. Telling him "hey, it's legal, you can't do anything about it" would likely result in instant firing, which the union wouldn't even bother trying to defend because of the magic phrase "safety of the children". You and I and pretty much everyone here on THR knows that's a bunch of crapola, but thats what would happen. Look, it's not illegal to have a accidental discharge, right? As a cop, if you have one, your probably going to get into a whole heck of a lot more trouble than I, as a civilian, would, right? I am telling you, aside from our discussion of the letter of the law, that no teacher with half a brain brings a gun onto campus, regardless of the legality. On a completely unrelated note, tobacco is an even worse offense in Colorado schools. I am a lifelong dipper, and I usually sneak a bandit or two during the day, and it is dangerous and, frankly, stupid of me to do. Long gone are the days of teachers smoking in the lounge! I could (and assuredly do not)distribute Playboys to my students and still not get fired as fast as I would if I lit a cigarette.
Winchester, it is not legal to carry concealed in Colorado without a permit. I am not sure if that's what you were trying to say, but if it was, that is 100% wrong.
In Colorado, it's legal to carry a loaded handgun in your car. I can go most anyplace with a loaded pistol in my car and be fine. The second I drive onto campus (and I am a teacher, so I am aware of the law), I am breaking the law. Not the law that says it's legal to carry a loaded pistol, but the law that says "no firearms on campus" Two different laws.
Notice, I make no mention of a carry permit. Like I say, I let mine lapse, and I think we covered that ground satisfactorily already anyway.
Notice I specifically state "loaded handgun". I believe that I am completely correct when I say that I would be breaking the law by carrying my loaded handgun in my truck onto school grounds, because I am overstepping the rules set down in paragraph C. Further, Paragraph D would seem to indicate that it is acceptable to have a loaded handgun on school grounds (in this case) only for self defense, which would not be the case if I was parking and then going in for ten hours. However, that may be splitting hairs, I don't know, and I could probably be convinced to concede that point in principle to you.
What I do know, for certain and without regard to law, is that if a gun was spotted in my truck somehow (which would be impossible where I keep it), and the school was alerted to that, there would be hell to pay, and while I wouldn't necessarily lose my job, I would without a doubt be standing tall in front of the man explaining what I was doing with a gun in my truck on campus. Telling him "hey, it's legal, you can't do anything about it" would likely result in instant firing, which the union wouldn't even bother trying to defend because of the magic phrase "safety of the children". You and I and pretty much everyone here on THR knows that's a bunch of crapola, but thats what would happen. Look, it's not illegal to have a accidental discharge, right? As a cop, if you have one, your probably going to get into a whole heck of a lot more trouble than I, as a civilian, would, right? I am telling you, aside from our discussion of the letter of the law, that no teacher with half a brain brings a gun onto campus, regardless of the legality. On a completely unrelated note, tobacco is an even worse offense in Colorado schools. I am a lifelong dipper, and I usually sneak a bandit or two during the day, and it is dangerous and, frankly, stupid of me to do. Long gone are the days of teachers smoking in the lounge! I could (and assuredly do not)distribute Playboys to my students and still not get fired as fast as I would if I lit a cigarette.
Winchester, it is not legal to carry concealed in Colorado without a permit. I am not sure if that's what you were trying to say, but if it was, that is 100% wrong.