FN FS2000 - an interesting test of it's ability to eject

[sturmgewehr]

Many people have asked me about the FS2000 and how it works with the forward ejection system. Most people who ask wonder how reliable it is... they ask "what if that tube gets blocked with something."

It appears to me that the rifle is pretty reliable. Here you'll see me stick (6) spent casings back into the ejection tube then close the ejection port cover (clicks closed like a M16). Then I fire the rifle and it spits the (6) empties and the freshly fired empty out the front of the rifle with no problem. I'm also using crappy Wolf ammo in this test which is quite a bit weaker than mil-spec 5.56mm.

FS2000 ejection test

While not a full blown reliability test in that I don't pack the tube with mud, I thought the results were interesting enough to share with you guys.

 

[General Geoff]

That's pretty impressive.


How much do those FS2000s run again?

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Had a feed stoppage with it yet?

 

[sturmgewehr]

You can get them for about $1800 if you shop around.

The only feed issues I've had, and only two, was with Wolf ammo. Once I kicked it up to high cycle (the gas system) I didn't have problems. With mil-spec 5.56mm it's digested about 2k rounds so far without any problems at all.

 

[Kimber1911_06238]

I agree, that is impressive

 

[George Hill]

Any chambering bigger than .223 and I'd be all over it.

 

[Wes Janson]

Just wait for the RFB

 

[CypherNinja]

Just wait for the RFB

:drool:

Awwww! Not again!

 

[rangerruck]

the keltec bullpup works the same way, and does it with 308 ammo as well, so it must be a pretty reliable system.

 

[PercyShelley]

Any chambering bigger than .223 and I'd be all over it.

Seconded. How hard would it be to rechamber this thing in something a little more substantial?

 

[Shipwreck]

Nice gun

 

[RTFM]

Hey nice camera work IN FRONT OF THE WEAPON
:banghead:

 

[sturmgewehr]

Rechambering would take quite a bit of work. A qualified smith could do it obviously, but if you're doing anything more than using a cartridge based on the .223 it might be tough (a lot of redesigning the internal parts).

 

[TexasRifleman]

Hey nice camera work IN FRONT OF THE WEAPON

Oh please...... In front of the firing line 8 inches and 3 feet to the right and in front of the muzzle are entirely different things.

In fact, with modern zoom on camcorders the cameraman could have been 15-20 feet away. You can see the cameraman step back once the shooter gets ready.

Let's worry some more over nothing shall we?

I don't see any violation of the 4 rules at all in that.

 

[sturmgewehr]

Texas, I've found it's best to ignore people like him. He's drawing you into his little trap of trying to incite a flame war. It's not worth the effort.

 

[TexasRifleman]

It's not worth the effort

Yeah I know but it's Monday and I have a low tolerance

Enjoyed the video by the way.

 

[Bones11b]

Interesting to see in action, as I've never seen a fs2000 fired before that wasn't in some professional promotional video. Nice job.

 

[sturmgewehr]

Yeah I know but it's Monday and I have a low tolerance

Yeah, I know where you're coming from. I was reading this thread on the train this morning and when I saw the red text of his post, I just scrolled further down the page. I've been there though, sometimes it just warrants a response.

 

[sturmgewehr]

Yeah I know but it's Monday and I have a low tolerance

I've noticed that not a whole lot of info is available online (outside of dedicated FN forums) about the PS90 and FS2000. I'm not sure how popular the rifles are, but I can say this - my FS2000 is a keeper.

 

[MassMark]

I thought the FS2000 was the oddest and ugliest rifle I'd ever seen - until I fired one at a members shoot on another forum. I'm left now wanting one, but the $1800.00 price tag keeps me away....It was a superb rifle, accurate and handled like a dream. Nice video and kudos to you for the video shot - it was well done.

 

[MassMark]

Changing Opinion...Sweet Rifle

I thought the FS2000 was the oddest and ugliest rifle I'd ever seen - until I fired one at a members shoot on another forum. I'm left now wanting one, but the $1800.00 price tag keeps me away....It was a superb rifle, accurate and handled like a dream. Nice video and kudos to you for the video shot - it was well done.

 

[iamkris]

I thought the FS2000 was the oddest and ugliest rifle I'd ever seen - until I fired one at a members shoot on another forum. I'm left now wanting one, but the $1800.00 price tag keeps me away....It was a superb rifle, accurate and handled like a dream.

That's funny. I had exactly the OPPOSITE experience, although admittedly only handling it.

I thought it was a pretty slick design until I handled one at the NRA Show last May in St. Louis. I found it to be the clumbsiest, most un-ergonomic, plastic feeling, crappy trigger, horrible sighted rifle I ever picked up. Maybe my opinion would change if I fired one but I doubt it.

To each his own, however.

 

[sturmgewehr]

Here's a video clip slowed down 2x of the ejection, I thought you guys might get a kick out of it.



I disagree about the ergonomics. I find that the rifle is a very natural pointer, the fire controls are in natural places, and the rifle is so well balanced you can hold it in your shoulder forever and not feel any fatigue.

Yes, it's mostly plastic just as the AUG is. People complained about the "Mattel toy" M16 at first because of its construction, and now such methods are the accepted norm. Things change, and I can assure you the design of the FN rifle will influence furture weapons for some time to come (like Kel-Tec's new .308 bullpup that borrows heavily from the FS2000).

 

[iamkris]

I disagree about the ergonomics.

That is the funny thing about ergonomics...what fits some people doesn't fit others.

I find the FN FAL to be one of the most ergonomic rifles out there...challenging even ARs for how they fit me. Others claim that the FN is awful fitting. I personally find most HK rifles absolutely abysmal and others think they are a gift from heaven in the ergonomics department.

I wasn't complaining about plastic per se...just felt like the type of plastic used didn't do the rifle justice. I'm well aware of the influence of polymers in firearms design and am an advocate of them used properly.

That is the beauty of so many choices in firearms...something for everyone.

Anyway, glad you like your rifle and thanks for the test and videos. They certainly are cool looking. One question...how do you clear a FTF/FTE malf on that thing?

 

[sturmgewehr]

I agree with your assessment of ergonomics, it's a matter of personal preference.

As for clearing a FTF, you must remove the magazine (I life the inspection cover) and operate the charging handle. Unlike the M16 you can't roll the weapon to the side to clear a feed failure (although this doesn't always work with the M16 either).