black bear
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I was a little surprised by your response:
Were you aiming for them, or just trying to scare them (seems like a bad idea to shoot near someone just to warn)? If you had hit them, it seems (based on your brief description) that it wouldn't be a justifiable shooting.
Why did you decide to shoot?
Bryce[/QUOTE]
Bryce,
I understand your concern. Where I come from, it is called "a show of force," and it is what most crooks understand.
Now, you recall I mention "evaluating the situation;" that is what I did, and it seemed safe to shoot at the tree near them (I have a Laser Grips in my pistol and I know where I am shooting). Moreover, I wanted the bullets to hit the tree where I can find them again if I want to prove where I shoot, NOT the ground, not the air, but where I can retrieve them.
In my town, we can get away to do some John Wayne things, especially when we are in our own property.
I know the local law enforcement officers (I have sold several MAG 951's to them) and I was expecting trouble so I was ready to do some shooting.
In the summer when I returned from my camping trip I found my dog (a Rottweiler) badly beaten and unable to stand on her legs. It looks like they used a tire iron on her, a tool that they carry to force open doors or windows. (I have an alarm system and a big dog, it’s just you don't get any respect these days).
Not long ago I found an arrow buried to the feathers in the back yard, no doubt aimed and shot from the woods toward my dog, as it was near her dog house.
More recently they tried to break thru the garage door (it is bolted from the inside).
Even more recently at 2 am one guy run thru my property chased by my dog, he collided in the dark with my wooden shooting bench (I shoot adult air guns called Field Target, 1200 fps with Kodiak 12 grains) and limped out (I saw him) after jumping my fence.
I had a similar situation with two guys "casing the joint" from the woods a few years ago when I still worked as a watchmaker. The same case, with my dog barking bloody murder. I sneaked on them and put a strong light in their faces, also I took a couple shots to help then win the race down the airstrip we used to have.
Now, this case was probably different, guys doing this for a dare, (they confront a barking dog) or for doing mischievous things, people doing the same things to annoy the residents, stealing garbage cans and throwing them in the woods, blowing mailboxes near the 4th of July at Halloween and near New Year. (I just buy the cheap ones, now) stealing hanging flower pots, giving the nice folks flat tires, shooting paint balls at doors and windows in car-pass shootings, burning a tool shed once in a while, breaking into the newspaper stand and stealing cigarettes and candies. (They are half men half children)
Calling the Pizza man with an order and giving him flat tires.
Walking in the woods I find places where they congregate, the litter they left behind is composed of beer cans, porno magazines, marijuana joints, wine bottles, condoms, and sexy underwear.
Twice they almost burned the woods nearby. I don't know what kind of parents those kids have but I don't think they are going to be missed if by mistake I hit one or two of them
jk!
Show of force works. I am mostly left alone in comparison to what they do to my neighbors.
Still, when you go out there you don't know what you are going to find, it is not ill advice to go prepared to confront the guy that beat my dog or the one that tried to break into the house.
black bear
Were you aiming for them, or just trying to scare them (seems like a bad idea to shoot near someone just to warn)? If you had hit them, it seems (based on your brief description) that it wouldn't be a justifiable shooting.
Why did you decide to shoot?
Bryce[/QUOTE]
Bryce,
I understand your concern. Where I come from, it is called "a show of force," and it is what most crooks understand.
Now, you recall I mention "evaluating the situation;" that is what I did, and it seemed safe to shoot at the tree near them (I have a Laser Grips in my pistol and I know where I am shooting). Moreover, I wanted the bullets to hit the tree where I can find them again if I want to prove where I shoot, NOT the ground, not the air, but where I can retrieve them.
In my town, we can get away to do some John Wayne things, especially when we are in our own property.
I know the local law enforcement officers (I have sold several MAG 951's to them) and I was expecting trouble so I was ready to do some shooting.
In the summer when I returned from my camping trip I found my dog (a Rottweiler) badly beaten and unable to stand on her legs. It looks like they used a tire iron on her, a tool that they carry to force open doors or windows. (I have an alarm system and a big dog, it’s just you don't get any respect these days).
Not long ago I found an arrow buried to the feathers in the back yard, no doubt aimed and shot from the woods toward my dog, as it was near her dog house.
More recently they tried to break thru the garage door (it is bolted from the inside).
Even more recently at 2 am one guy run thru my property chased by my dog, he collided in the dark with my wooden shooting bench (I shoot adult air guns called Field Target, 1200 fps with Kodiak 12 grains) and limped out (I saw him) after jumping my fence.
I had a similar situation with two guys "casing the joint" from the woods a few years ago when I still worked as a watchmaker. The same case, with my dog barking bloody murder. I sneaked on them and put a strong light in their faces, also I took a couple shots to help then win the race down the airstrip we used to have.
Now, this case was probably different, guys doing this for a dare, (they confront a barking dog) or for doing mischievous things, people doing the same things to annoy the residents, stealing garbage cans and throwing them in the woods, blowing mailboxes near the 4th of July at Halloween and near New Year. (I just buy the cheap ones, now) stealing hanging flower pots, giving the nice folks flat tires, shooting paint balls at doors and windows in car-pass shootings, burning a tool shed once in a while, breaking into the newspaper stand and stealing cigarettes and candies. (They are half men half children)
Calling the Pizza man with an order and giving him flat tires.
Walking in the woods I find places where they congregate, the litter they left behind is composed of beer cans, porno magazines, marijuana joints, wine bottles, condoms, and sexy underwear.
Twice they almost burned the woods nearby. I don't know what kind of parents those kids have but I don't think they are going to be missed if by mistake I hit one or two of them
jk!Show of force works. I am mostly left alone in comparison to what they do to my neighbors.
Still, when you go out there you don't know what you are going to find, it is not ill advice to go prepared to confront the guy that beat my dog or the one that tried to break into the house.
black bear
