Four guys rob me of my Raccoon feeder

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Dumb, dumber and dumbest!

Talking about mailboxes.

I had a son-in-law (now an ex-son-inlaw) that was so lazy you couldn't find a shovel to fit his hand anywhere. He wouln't work so he took up stealing.

At about 3 AM he and another pot head broke into someone's barn and was stealing chainsaws and other tools. The homeowner (farmer) heard the noise and put on the light just in time to see these clowns heading out of his drive and let go with two rounds with his 12 gauge. Dummy was driving a VW Rabitt (which I had given him) and in leaving the driveway he ran completely over the farmer's mailbox. Guess what. It tore the front license plate off and it was lying on the ground. It didn't take the cops too long to figure out who to talk to first--me--seeing that the car was registered in my name.

Anyway, we got it sorted out and Dummy got probation and psycological help. Wasn't that nice?

But my poor VW!! There were seven buckshot holes in the trunk, back window smashed and front windshield shattered. The damn insurance company wouldn't pay the claim saying it wasn't covered due to the vehicle was damaged during the commission of a crime!

When the farmer was questioned about shooting at a car he said that he didn't have his glasses on and heard a low growling sound (bad muffler) and was sure that a bear had attacked his sheep and was running off with it. Well, the cops sort of smiled and told him to be sure what he was shooting at next time. The old farmer said in his best Vermont accent "Don't think there will be a next time. Word gets around and I hear all the bears are heading south. Ayup.".

Anyway, I came out on the short end to the tune of about $1500 to fix the VW. I just wanted to fix the glass and leave the trunk with the holes in it. Great conversation starter! Wife says no way, so we fixed it.

If anyone starts a thread about "wannabes" I got another story about another ex son-in-law who has been in every war since 1812. Yup, you guessed it--same daughter==geeezz!

God Bless You and Yours.

Charlie
 
PS call ryobi and ask if the drill was ever warrantee registered, more than likely it was daddies and he sent in the warrantee card.....
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Now that's just what I was going to say. It might be worth a shot.
 
Shooting them would have been bad.....though a shotgun loaded with rock salt if you just nipped them where forrest gump was bit would have been fun to watch. :neener:
 
V4Vendetta,

Must be a regional term? It's actually hot-rolled steel that is a bit too hard and brittle to be termed "tough". A flat wheel or heavy built-up tread on a freight car or locomotive wheel can easily break a rail from the high point-loading.
 
[So heres my "What IF"...........What If by shooting towards them you scared them so much that they NEVER again do something so stupid. What If because of what happened they learned a valuable lesson. What If those kids actually grow up to become responsible law abiding citizens and teach their own kids some day that the RTKBA is essentail to keep our freedoms, do to a close call they had that made them realize THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN DECISIONS.
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I totally understand the reponse. I've wanted to do that myself at times.


BUT

That's a good side of the "what if'. The downside might be a dead (shot in the back) 14 year old that you've known all your life (and maybe you are friends with his parents, grandparents, etc.) who won't get a chance to grow up and realize that his childish prank was stupid.

I'd bet twenty bucks that the kids are neighbors, or even friends of the family. How else did would they know about this feeder? They obviously came prepared to steal it. I would ask around to see who is missing a Ryobi drill.
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probably don't live very far from you...and one of them just needed a unique Christmas gift for his grandmother. how thoughtfull.
Mark.
 
Questions about rock salt in a shotgun

How much rock salt do you put in it?

What kind of shell do you use to "launch" the rock salt?

Will it damage the inside of your barrel?
 
Since rock salt is so much lighter than lead, steel or any of the other alloys they're using in shotshells today you can fill them up without worrying about over pressure loads. When I lived in the country and we had a problem with the neighbor's dogs we'd just open up the crimp on factory loads (paper casings in those days), dump the lead shot and refill it with rock salt. It didn't seriously injure the dogs, but it sure kept them away for a while.

Yes, you do need to clean the gun immediately after using it. Some of the salt will turn into a powder when the gun is fired and that powder will coat the inside of the barrel. The salt will suck in moisture from the atmosphere and voila', instant rust. We only used the stuff in an old Winchester Model 37 single shot 12 gauge that was basically a rust bucket already.
 
You can, in Texas, by God shoot the heck out of a person who invades your property, day or night, for the purpose of stealing.
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And it's up to the property owner to decide what they're up to. A friend used to do field strength surveys for radio stations. Once or twice, somebody fouled up and called the wrong farmer for permission to cross his land. Most of them figured out what was going on when they saw two guys loaded down with RF measurement gear, but one or two responded with a load of #8 across the bow. Criminal tresspass, particularly for stealin', particularly at night can easily turn into a capital crime.

I will, personally, give a round of applause to the first man who can tell me who coined the phrase "Texas, by God!" and what gun made him say it.
 
For those that have expressed a concern about me feeding the raccoons.

Feeding the raccoons was a forced action.

My yard is fenced with a 7 foot fence, the nice raccoons climb the fence and fight my 100 pounds Rottweiler, taking round chunks of skin the size of dollar coins, down to bare skin.

It took me a while to realize they do that for the lingering odors of dog food or the smell of cooking coming out of the house.

I had a door fit on the fence and put the corn feeder out in a tree 25 yards away from the door in the fence.

I made a feeder, waterproofed it painted camo and covered it with the plastic leaves that bowhunters use for tri dimensional camo.

You have to be very near to discover it, but they did.

The feeder "tactic" worked like a charm, no more fights, no more frantic barking at 2 a. m. no more visits to the Vet.
It just cost me 20 pounds of corn per week, a small price to pay for piece of mind.

To discover the feeder you have to be lurking in the woods near the house, with other intentions, (casing the joint we call it) to come back with pliers and a screwdriver drill to get it, it is more like a dare, confront a 100 pounds frantic barking dog 25 yards away, shows disrespect and a who cares attitude, you have to show people like that a little of "show of force"
That was my reason for shooting near the BG's.

black bear
 
Azrael256 said:
And it's up to the property owner to decide what they're up to. A friend used to do field strength surveys for radio stations. Once or twice, somebody fouled up and called the wrong farmer for permission to cross his land. Most of them figured out what was going on when they saw two guys loaded down with RF measurement gear, but one or two responded with a load of #8 across the bow. Criminal tresspass, particularly for stealin', particularly at night can easily turn into a capital crime.

I will, personally, give a round of applause to the first man who can tell me who coined the phrase "Texas, by God!" and what gun made him say it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley_Hardin
 
Shoot the raccoons and feed them to the dog. Win win.

Honestly, feeding overly aggressive wildlife to placate it is a horrible idea all around. If you did it here you'd be looking at a very hefty fine or jail time.

KILL THEM OR LEAVE THEM ALONE. Do not feed them!
 
Honest to gosh when I was reading the initial post, I thopught this was going to be one of those Mall Ninja stories.

I wear dark clothes and a dark watch cap just for those intrusions.
My gun is a 1911 with Laser Grips and extra magazines loaded with Federal's Hydra-Shocks 230 grains. I have a cell phone and a radio to communicate with the house to let then know what is going on.

My flashlight is one of my modifications, the MAG 951 II (1050 "real" lumens)
Thirty times more powerful than a regular Maglite 3 D on which is based, even more powerful than the 1 million candlepower spotlight.
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The only thing left out was taking high powered rifle rounds with the steel trauma plate...
 
In reply to the one that asked who would run over anything in a corvette.
Can't speak to the corvette specifically, but I do know of one who has watched too many movies and seen the gates fly into pieces when hit by a car.
My home backs to a large transmission easement and it has a locked gate on ti behind my home.
The gate is, or was, the typical aluminum fence gate. The lock was a typical lock and the chain holding the gate closes was a typical chain.
I came home one aftyernoon to find the gate in a "U" shape, still locked and intact. I do know that the perp has found out that gates DO NOT COME APART UPON IMPACT, but the car does. :) :)
Blessings
 
shooting was justified even under NY law

It was a night time and the prowlers had a gun....a Ryobi can certainly look like a gun at night.

it might be time to stop feeding the coons,maybe you can bring the dogs in at night? I'm sure they would appreciate it.
 
I was going to suggest killing the 'coons, but Cosmo beat me to it. Feeding them only rewards bad behavior and may attract more freeloader vermin.

My neighbor had a family of racoons in a hollow trunk of an old maple that were becoming a real nusance getting into trash cans, making a mess, etc. (suburban neighborhood inside teh beltway, FWIW) It got pretty tense when one of the neigbor's kids almost tangled with a big male one evening when taking the trash out (surprised the animal scrounging in the can). Animal control did nothing, and one of the bambista/bunny huugger neighbors on the other side of the fence said he'd call the humane society, et al, if anything happened to the 'coons (we think he may have been feeding them!?!). Fortunately, one good neighbor had a supressed .22 and a good line of sight on the tree/nest, so the problem was handled 'quietly'. Bunny hugger never figured it out:evil:
 
Hiya black bear,

Now, you recall I mention "evaluating the situation;" that is what I did, and it seemed safe to shoot at the tree near them (I have a Laser Grips in my pistol and I know where I am shooting).

In my town, we can get away to do some John Wayne things, especially when we are in our own property.

I know the local law enforcement officers (I have sold several MAG 951's to them) and I was expecting trouble so I was ready to do some shooting.

I don't post here often but browse the forums quite a bit under another user name. Because of what I do in LE I've created this separate userid.

I ask you to seriously consider the potential ramifications of what you did had something gone wrong. I know you believe that what you did was safe but I ask you consider the following.

What if they had a gun? Might they have returned fire, after all you shot at them first?!

What if your laser sights somehow got "knocked off" of zero?

What if one of the scum had zagged when it was clear he was going to zig and inadvertently got in front of your bullet.

There's just too much that can go wrong here IMHO. There is a reason Law Enforcement does not shoot warning shots. Or shots to scare someone. If there is a justifiable reason to use Deadly Force then the point is to aim for the center of the largest visible part of the target (torso) and shoot to stop the threat. Were these guys a threat or simply trying to get away from you?!

I probably will not change your idea of what a bad idea it was to do what you did. But maybe there is someone who will read my post and re-consider doing anything similar to this.

Cheers,
M.
 
My yard is fenced with a 7 foot fence, the nice raccoons climb the fence and fight my 100 pounds Rottweiler, taking round chunks of skin the size of dollar coins, down to bare skin.
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First, you need to get rid of that pansy dog and get a hound. 50 pounds of redbone will drag 100 pounds of "assault dog" around the block. Twice.

Second, don't feed the vermin.

S/F

Farnham
 
1860 Army .44 Caliber.......supposedly Hardin's favorite.
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Actually, it was the sight of Armstrong's Peacemaker that allowed Hardin to recognize the Texas Ranger and say those words. Hardin couldn't bring his .44 into the fight because it snagged when he tried to draw it out of his waistband. Good concealment holsters are important!
 
shoot the racoons. stop shooting at kids.


sounds like the cliche crazy old man that lives down the block. btw, sometimes if people think you're crazy, they might be right.

it seems relevant to note that most laws use the term "reasonable person" in regards to use of force.
 
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