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Anyone see these newer rifles? If so I see insane velocities for a pellet gun.

I see them bend the barrel in half to crack them but am unsure if there co2 cartridges in them. Thanks for any info.

Im currently interested in the Whisper Fusion Pro in .177
http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=457

Are these co2 cartridge firearms or do they just have a strong spring tension??


Looking to upgrade my son from his Red Rider. Heard they kick like an AR.
 
TheVision said:
To get those velocities, you need to use PBA pellets. They are much lighter than lead pellets.
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I tried to post a similar message about < 5 grain PBA platinum pellet, but I got "server too busy" & then after the back arrow my post was gone!!! I was bummed.

I saw that the PBA platinum pellet costs $12.99 for 100 on-line; at the price, they better have real platinum in them.

chuck
 
Not much of a Gamo fan. Their crazy speed comes from shooting an alloy pellet (which I have never seen any good accuracy from) that is 1/2 or less the weight of a normal lead pellet. If shooting lead pellets they are the same speed as most other ok air rifles. I also hate their ad campaign of shooting hogs with an air rifle, irresponsible stunt in my mind. Yes, if shot in the eye after it's been hunted by dogs and exhausted you can take a hog with a .177. May be able to take a lion also (wish they would try that next time:evil:)

Look on Pyramid Air, they sell a Bronco made for kids, I would give that a look. Any of them which cock can be hard on small kids to cock them much.

If you go bigger look at Nitro Piston rifles (many out there) since they don't recoil like a springer and I think is easier on new shooters to learn.

I am not a fan of CO2. Have had seals go bad on too many of them so I'll stick with things which need to be cocked now, or PCPs.
 
I had one gamo air rifle for about 4 hours, I have a slingshot that is more accurate.
 
Gameover44,

The Gamo's that produce that kind of velocity will be much more tame with heavier pellets. They are indeed break barrel design. You cock them by breaking the barrel which in turn compresses a spring and piston.

Typically with most break barrel design "springers" they are semi hold sensitive. There are many of us who get respectable accuracy from Gamo's. Minute of water bottle @ 40-50 yards is what mine will do. In my experience they come from the factory pretty well unrefined with lots of trigger creep. I have drug my Gamo all over the desert and through the woods into the snow let it sit by the river while I bass fish and pack it every where I go. Is it the best of my air guns, no far from it but it gets used way more than my 300 BLK and the fun for money is pretty high.

Try not to be just sold on velocity of the airgun as better accuracy is typically obtained subsonically. On a last note it takes a while to learn how a specific rifle shoots as well so patience/practice may be needed.
 
I have a youth sized Gamo spring powered break barrel.
Bought it for a nephew who had less interest in it than I did.
It gets about 550f/s with the usual lead pellets.
It is also extremely reliable and accurate.
It does recoil at least as much as an AR, requiring a good shooting technique.
But it's no harder to cock than the Red Ryder, just in a different direction.
No trouble hitting corks from wine bottles at just under 20 yards.
Most folks who complain about the inaccuracies of spring powered air rifles have never discovered the secret to shooting them.
It cost around $100 on sale many years ago.
 
GAMEOVER44 said:
Anyone see these newer rifles? If so I see insane velocities for a pellet gun.

I see them bend the barrel in half to crack them but am unsure if there co2 cartridges in them. Thanks for any info.

Im currently interested in the Whisper Fusion Pro in .177
http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=457

Are these co2 cartridge firearms or do they just have a strong spring tension??


Looking to upgrade my son from his Red Rider. Heard they kick like an AR.
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Gamo rifles tend to be loud for their power level, compared to other springers. They also can have accuracy issues. It seems to be poor quality control, some people have great guns with great accuracy, others have problems with inconsistent power (which gives bad accuracy) and poor lockup on the barrel, which gives very bad accuracy.

g.willikers said:
No trouble hitting corks from wine bottles at just under 20 yards.
Most folks who complain about the inaccuracies of spring powered air rifles have never discovered the secret to shooting them.
It cost around $100 on sale many years ago.
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But many people who have problems with Gamo rifles have legitimate problems.A barrel that won't lock up properly and wiggles side to side will never shoot accurately, no matter how good the shooter is.
 
I must be lucky or something, at least in this regard.
I also have one from the land of the imaginary dragon, with the Crosman name on it.
It, too, is equally accurate, and powers .177 pellets at over 800 f/s.
Must be the luck of the draw, sometimes.
Like buying cars - never had a bad one there, either.
 
I would have accepted minute of water bottle @ 50 yards out of the gamo I had as it was inexpensive but it wouldn't even hit one at 25 yards. Maybe I just got a lemon.

I wound up with an RWS 34 to fulfill my springer needs and it is quite accurate with an exceptional trigger but also cost a lot more.
 
Just gotta' ask, was the Gamo your first spring powered air rifle?
It took me quite awhile, and discovering the Pelletier's excellent articles at Pyramyd Air, to be able to hit anything with a springer.
 
Thanks for the info guys, I actually am wanting that little bit of recoil to prep my son for powder rounds in real firearms.

Any other good makers out there?
 
The springer recoil isn't like a rifle recoil. Hard to explain since the spring (if you go that way) recoils in both directions, but it's not the same.

Go to Pyramid Air, they have a great search tool there to let you pick your requirements and then it will show you want your options are.
 
I just completed major surgery on my friend's Gammo. His is a pretty good shooter, but I have no idea why. They are made cheap but can be tuned to be a better shooting gun with some TLC.

The real pellet speed with standard lead pellets is more like 900 FPS. That is a more realistic number.
 
Just gotta' ask, was the Gamo your first spring powered air rifle?
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If you were asking me, No it was not my first. Wasn't my last either, just my first and last Gamo. I wanted to like it, why I bought it in the first place, just didn't work out.
 
Thanks for the info guys, I actually am wanting that little bit of recoil to prep my son for powder rounds in real firearms.

Any other good makers out there?
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Most certainly, take a look at Beeman, even those made in China, better yet look at Diana/RWS, Weihrauch. Stay away from those branded as firearm makers, ie: Ruger, Winchester, and such, most all made by cheaper Chinese makers, not up to Beeman quality.

BTW, velocity is of little use when you can't hit what you are shooting at.
 
Break barrel airguns are very simple devices, when it comes down to it. But they require very good fit and execution, which is exactly what you don't get with cheap rifles. Some will be excellent out of the box, and some won't.

Even so, it may take nothing more than a screwdriver and a little tinkering to get a bad example to shoot great. After 3 years of sitting in a closet, I finally decided to get my Crosman shooting straight. A few hours of reading and an hour or two of tinkering and testing had it taking the necks off of beer bottles at 40 yards.
 
Yeah of course. It is usually easy to leave my shooting area cleaner than it started. A 5 minute garbage run is really high yield. :)
 
Most are made in Spain, so if you have something against buying Chinese there is that for you....and ANYTHING that is under $200 is going to be made in China.

They are not bad guns, they are on par with any gun in their price range, better in most respects.

The problem with Gamo is their users....the 3006 shooter that goes to the Walmarts and gets himself the air rifle with the largest FPS numbers then goes home and shoots it in his back yard just like his deer rifle.....it is not going to work. Then they bad mouth the maker from here to sunday after the actual problem is the idiot behind the trigger.

If the shooter knows what he is doing.....and lets face it most new shooters have no idea how to hold a spring air rifle....let alone one putting up the FPS numbers some of these do....then if they are real game they will go to PCP and say man that gamo is real junk....no you are shooting something very different you are just too stupid to know it.

I am no gamo fan boi, but their rifles are no better or no worse then anything else out there in their ballpark....some are better.

I currently have 3...2 are close to 30 years old, and one pretty new. In figuring out the new one I can see how a new shooter would want to use it as a tomato stake....no way is this a first air rifle....but that is who bought it....and why I have it.

If anything to blame with Gamo it is the marketing....and great big FPS numbers sells airguns to people that know nothing about air guns...and springers that put out those kind of numbers are the most difficult guns to shoot out of anything I have ever put to my shoulder.
 
I know little about Gamo 'airguns', but if their airguns are anything like their pellets to me they aren't worth carrying out the door. And this is their "Match" pellets at that, mis-matched halves, flashing to the extreme, doesn't matter what gun they are used in.

I do however own a Beeman R1 & R7 made in Germany, I also own a couple of Chinese air rifles that I'll put against any other airgun in their price point. Furthermore the Chinese being marketed under the Beeman name are excellent in quality and in performance. Just a slight notch down from some of the best pellets coming out of Germany.

Chinese quality????
Consider why the Beeman P17 is so popular, I do have a pellet pistol that outshoots it, but it cost $350.00.
 
Im very hesitant buying ANYTHING made in China. I dont support communism and I feel there manufacturing is lousy. I will look into Beeman. thx
 
Im very hesitant buying ANYTHING made in China. I dont support communism and I feel there manufacturing is lousy. I will look into Beeman. thx
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Is not the computer you are typing on from China? How bout the latest Nikon camera, your TV, your Cell Phone, the radio in your vehicle, or the electronics in your vehicle, the toaster in your kitchen, your washer or dryer, the list is endless. Check out your shoes while you are at it.

Sorry to say, but it is what it is!

Just so you know, Beeman is now owned by Marksman-Beeman, which is owned by S/R Industries, which is a Chinese manufacturing Company.
 
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A little further knowledge

http://chineseairgunportal.brutuz.com/brands.htm

Brands

A bit of info regarding Chinese airgun brands:

BAM, largest Chinese airgun manufacturer, rumour has it the BAM brand name will no longer be used in the future, production targetted to "known" brand names like Crosman, Ruger, Umarex and Xisico just to name a few.
BMK means British Mark Kolter (BMK is a Polish brand name, Marka means Brand in Polish.
Crosman, famous US air gun manufacturer, a lot of their products are made in China.
Lider is another Euro brand name used for Chinese rifles
Perfecta and Norconia are German brand names used for Chinese air rifles.
Remington is a famous US fire arms brand, their name is also in use for Chinese air rifles.
Ruger is another famous US fire arms brand, their name is also in use for Chinese air rifles.
SMK means Sports Marketing, a UK based importer of Chinese air rifles and other stuff.
Stoeger sounds German (like Weihrauch), but Stoeger air rifles are made in China.
Techforce is an established and respected Chinese air rifle brand in the US.
Umarex Sportwaffen GmbH & Co. KG is a German manufacturer of air guns founded in 1972, some of their air rifles are made in China (Perfecta, Ruger, Hammerli Hunter series).
Umarex USA is the US subsidiary of Umarex Sportwaffen GmbH & Co. KG and was created in 2006 after acquiring the US marketers of the RWS brand (formerly part of Dynamit Nobel), which they continue to market. Umarex USA markets Umarex airguns in addition to many other airguns under license from various firearm brands, some of their air rifles are made in China.
Xisico USA, US importer, their air rifles are made in China
 
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