Gander Outdoors Prices

[Mn Fats]

I know people wont shop there for this or that reason but I stopped in at Gander Outdoors the other day and the prices seemed fair. A Sig P320 Compact was $499. The same gun in 40 s&w was $575. I asked the guy "why is the 40 more? I thought it would be less cause its not as popular of a chambering." His response was along the lines of its pricier because more goes into building a 40. Thicker barrel, better, beefed up steel and the "clips" need to be bigger.

Super nice guy though. Anyways, the prices seem to be a million times better than the old Gander. Just my experience..

 

[Hokie_PhD]

I know people wont shop there for this or that reason ..

No this or that here.

When a CEO offends me and says he doesn’t want my business because I exercised my right to vote and didn’t vote for who he wanted, why shouldn’t I follow his wishes?

Personally I think it’s stupid and bad business. As a business owner I try real hard to keep my politics out of it and when I have to I make it clear that I respect others options even if they disagree. But if Marcus Lemonis doesn’t get it, that’s his choice, just like it’s your choice to either give him business or not. And while I’d like you to not spend money in his business it’s your right to decide on your own, and what I say isn’t important in the big picture.

 

[Mn Fats]

^makes perfect sense. But I'm kind of on a tight gun budget. If a CEO said he hates babies and tripped me on my way into the store, but his gun was $75 cheaper than the next guys, I'd buy the better priced gun. Might be cowardice but anyone who does roofing knows you earn every single dime of your paycheck. Heck Walmart runs ma and pop stores out of business every year. But damn near everyone still shops there.

My point wasn't the ethics of where you shop. It was more just a funny thing about the salesman's story and my experience of gander outdoors have better prices than gander mountian. Just for anyone who was curious.

 

[Wisco]

When a CEO offends me and says he doesn’t want my business because I exercised my right to vote and didn’t vote for who he wanted, why shouldn’t I follow his wishes?

In all fairness, that’s not what the CEO said.

"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis.

That was a response to Trump saying both sides of the Charlottesville situation (white nationalists and those protesting them) were to blame.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time,” said Trump.

Everyone is free to spend their money wherever they want, but demonizing Gander Outdoors for their parent company’s CEO’s comments seems a bit too far to me.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

In all fairness, that’s not what the CEO said.

"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis.

That was a response to Trump saying both sides of the Charlottesville situation (white nationalists and those protesting them) were to blame.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. Not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. This has been going on for a long, long time,” said Trump.

Everyone is free to spend their money wherever they want, but demonizing Gander Outdoors for their parent company’s CEO’s comments seems a bit too far to me.

I believe he was very specific in another comment

As for Charlottesville
I’m not far from Charlottesville
That was a big mess for a year before they riot
The City council was responsible for the hatred
They didn’t do what people voted for
They were forcing a view that many in the area disagreed with
And the racist now former Vice Mayor was spreading tons of hate
He was fired from hi HS teaching job and should have be removed from the council

Now don’t get me wrong I’m 100% against racism and rioting, but there were lots of folks there who weren’t “white supremisists” because they were against what the council was doing

I also believe having the police stand down knowing all sorts of extremist were going to be there and things were going to explode was criminal.

Anyway, I’m still not going to buy at Gander as a mile or so away from their store in Fredericksburg is a really good locally own shop.

 

[Waveski]

Trump saying both sides of the Charlottesville situation (white nationalists and those protesting them) were to blame.

Shared blame and responsibility - WOW , what a radical concept!

"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days ..."

Could Lemonis have POSSIBLY made his message any more clear?
"There is no doubt" , he said, assuming that he speaks for the majority of Americans. Lemonis claims the moral and intellectual high ground. I am one of those "consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days". Therefor , I owe it to my moral superior to comply with his unmistakeable directive , as issued when he stated : "quite frankly, don't shop at my business."

It is practical that I comply with the directive , as it is obvious that Mr. Lemonis does not take well to anyone who does not agree with his opinions.

 

[Waveski]

demonizing Gander Outdoors for their parent company’s CEO’s comments seems a bit too far to me.

I respectfully disagree. I am just being cooperative.

 

[Waveski]

Thread is about Gander Outdoors prices.

Apologies for the digression.

 

[entropy]

A Sig P320 Compact was $499. The same gun in 40 s&w was $575. I asked the guy "why is the 40 more? I thought it would be less cause its not as popular of a chambering." His response was along the lines of its pricier because more goes into building a 40. Thicker barrel, better, beefed up steel and the "clips" need to be bigger.

I have a bridge in Lake Havasu, AZ for sale..........

 

[Hokkmike]

They have the G-42 for $399. I paid $425 at my LGS but that was "out the door" so pretty close there. My friend bought his P-365 at Field and Stream for $550. I got my P-365 at Gander for $499. Compared to Gander Mountain, Gander Outdoors has much saner prices. Reportedly they also do much better for those trading guns. The people in my store are practically all Trump-ites. I believe that is a reflection of the rural area I live in.

As far as comments by the CEO goes, quoted directly and in full and in context they are not nearly as bad as some people wish to interpret them. He could have easily decided NOT to include firearms sales in his newly organized store - but he did. That counts for something. NEWS FLASH - I can still be friends and do business with some one who disagrees with me politically and doesn't like Trump. But - if they are extreme then I would in that case not help them earn the $$$$ to work politically against my cause.

 

[ilbob]

I have a bridge in Lake Havasu, AZ for sale..........

did you expect the actual truth from a gun salesman? most of them don't know the answer to such questions so rather than answer truthfully they will make something up. or it could be something someone told them. it is just marketing. maybe more people are interested in a 40 versus a 9 so they charge more. Simple economics.

 

[ilbob]

Heck Walmart runs ma and pop stores out of business every year.

That's really debateable. Some interesting statistics I saw not real long ago suggested Walmart's effects are mostly on other smaller chains as opposed to mom and pop type stores. What does hurt mom and pop stores is when they lose experienced people to the big box stores that pay more and actually have benefits that virtually no "mom and pop" type stores provide. Home Depot, Menards, and Lowes about destroyed the smaller hardware stores around here when they opened up because the people that worked there that actually knew anything about hardware left for greener pastures. The hardware stores were forced to fill in with high school kids and people who were generally clueless. It did not take customers real long to realize if they wanted good service and good advice where they needed to go.

 

[entropy]

did you expect the actual truth from a gun salesman?

Having been one, yes I do, or at least an admission that they don know; and I know when they are BS'ing.

maybe more people are interested in a 40 versus a 9 so they charge more

Apparently they haven't noticed all the police turn-in .40's going for next to nothing, which is of course why there isn't much interest in .40 cal in the last few years....

 

[boom boom]

That's really debateable. Some interesting statistics I saw not real long ago suggested Walmart's effects are mostly on other smaller chains as opposed to mom and pop type stores. What does hurt mom and pop stores is when they lose experienced people to the big box stores that pay more and actually have benefits that virtually no "mom and pop" type stores provide. Home Depot, Menards, and Lowes about destroyed the smaller hardware stores around here when they opened up because the people that worked there that actually knew anything about hardware left for greener pastures. The hardware stores were forced to fill in with high school kids and people who were generally clueless. It did not take customers real long to realize if they wanted good service and good advice where they needed to go.

Must be in your area, unfortunately in this metro area dealing with HD and LO, most of the folks at the big box stores lack training, experience, and general knowledge. They hire them cheap, pay them fairly cheap, and don't give them enough hours to be full time. Increasingly I just use those companies websites, inventory locators, and do internet research on the products if I choose to buy from them.

At the big box stores in my area, they might be able to point to where something is but knowing what it is for--no dice. Folks with actual experience and knowledge make more actually using that experience in business for themselves. The best product knowledge folks are still at the independent lumber yards, the contractor stores--electrical, plumbing, tiling, drywall, etc. You just can't get everything at one store that way but you usually get better products.

There is still room for the small independent--they just have to be very careful about using hired labor--you have to do it yourself and with family rather than sitting back and hiring the necessary work done. Kinda like the boutique gun dealer. As usual, YMMV but my family ran a small retail establishment for years and I worked as a manager for a certain flailing big box store.

 

[JTHunter]

Gander Mt. open its first store in this area of Illinois about 4 years ago. For the first time in almost 5 years, I was able to acquire a good quantity of .22 ammo whose prices I didn't consider to be "stratospheric". Their opening also seemed to spur other stores (specifically Walmart) to get some in stock as, about 2 months later, WM had the same sized boxes of ammo (.22LR bulk) at slightly better prices BUT in limited quantities.
Academy opened up about 18 months later with GM going downhill not long after that. Scored more .22 ammo there at similar prices.
Now, that GM store is completely closed and the building is for sale/lease. I won't miss GM as every time I went in looking for specific primers, brass, or powder for reloading .357, they never had it. Se la vie.

 

[ilbob]

Gander Mt. open its first store in this area of Illinois about 4 years ago. For the first time in almost 5 years, I was able to acquire a good quantity of .22 ammo whose prices I didn't consider to be "stratospheric". Their opening also seemed to spur other stores (specifically Walmart) to get some in stock as, about 2 months later, WM had the same sized boxes of ammo (.22LR bulk) at slightly better prices BUT in limited quantities.
Academy opened up about 18 months later with GM going downhill not long after that. Scored more .22 ammo there at similar prices.
Now, that GM store is completely closed and the building is for sale/lease. I won't miss GM as every time I went in looking for specific primers, brass, or powder for reloading .357, they never had it. Se la vie.

I had a similar but somewhat different experience here. During the 22 ammo crisis, the local GM started getting in some 22 or they had it on their website and would ship it for free to the store. I bought some out of desperation since I was out of stuff suitable for bullseye shooting. To my surprise I found it (federal Automatch) was very reliable and more accurate than me in my M41 so I switched to it and never looked back. WM here had no 22 at all for several years except shotshells until near the end of the crisis when they would get some in now and then. I bought a bunch of the automatch mail order. I have enough to last several years of bullseye shooting.

The old GM building here is supposed to house a new GO store that was supposed to open in April but a few weeks ago when I drove by did not appear to be ready.

ETA: The website now says July.

 

[JR24]

Was just at the one in Wausau WI this past week. Prices were very reasonable and all the salesmen were very nice and helpful.

180 degrees from what it was.

 

[Wisco]

Was just at the one in Wausau WI this past week. Prices were very reasonable and all the salesmen were very nice and helpful.

180 degrees from what it was.

That’s good news. The one in Eau Claire is pushed back to June. The former store was the pits.

If nothing else, it’ll be a way to kill an hour once in a while and buy things I need sooner than ordering online.

 

[tarosean]

His response was along the lines of its pricier because more goes into building a 40. Thicker barrel, better, beefed up steel and the "clips" need to be bigger.

Except plastic fantastic are made in 40 then retrofited to 9mm.

 

[JR24]

That’s good news. The one in Eau Claire is pushed back to June. The former store was the pits.

If nothing else, it’ll be a way to kill an hour once in a while and buy things I need sooner than ordering online.

My wife was unhappy. Wandered in to see if they had any reloading stuff I wanted (they didn't have much at all) and walked out with a Sig P365.

Oops.

 

[Mn Fats]

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[340PD]

Marcus Lemonis could not price a gun low enough to make me buy one from his store. (did I phrase that strong enough?)

 

[stchman]

A Sig P320 Compact was $499. The same gun in 40 s&w was $575. I asked the guy "why is the 40 more? I thought it would be less cause its not as popular of a chambering." His response was along the lines of its pricier because more goes into building a 40. Thicker barrel, better, beefed up steel and the "clips" need to be bigger.

He doesn't know what he's talking about. The amount of extra metal that goes into making a .40S&W over a 9mm isn't very much at all.

Same price:

https://grabagun.com/sig-sauer-p320f-40sw-4-7-10rd-blk.html

https://grabagun.com/sig-320f9b-320-9mm-strkr-blk-14r.html

 

[Skgreen]

G O has had at least one ammo special I've partaken of via online.

Had about 3 GM's here in Houston previously, and AFAIK, there's only one so far that has reopened as G O. It happens to be the farthest one from me. Haven't seen any firearm prices on their website that entice, so haven't had any need to drive there.

 

[KansasSasquatch]

Except plastic fantastic are made in 40 then retrofited to 9mm.

Not always. The HS2000 (XD-9) was designed only for 9mm. It wasn't until years later when Springfield became the U.S. distributor that they started chambering them in .40. The design just happened to have enough extra meat to allow it. The XD-45 on the other hand is a whole different pistol, scaled up to use .45acp.

There might be other pistols done in such a manner, but for the most part you're probably correct.