Gangbangers in gun stores?

[Pilot]

i figured i'd throw out some bait and see if there were any bigoted motives behind this threads being posted in the first place. if there was none, i apologize.

Oh great, so you're the bigot police for THR then? Think first before you "throw out some bait".

Yes, you should apologize.

 

[bigray327]

Ugly thread.

 

[greg531mi]

I was in Gander Mountain Christmas Eve, a guy and his girlfriend, was buying a rifle. He looked ruff, dirty looking, not shaved, dirty hair, doing that Detroit lean on the glass case. He looked at the gun, she pulled out the cash, and then the manager asked who was buying the gun!!! The woman pulled out her ID, and then the manager gave the sale to one of his underlings....Guess he what no part of it, if it was a sting, it wasn't his signature on the paperwork!!!
BTW: They were both white......

 

[MDG1976]

I've been know to wear (somewhat) baggy jeans, sweatshirt, and stocking caps and go long periods without shaving. I also have tattoos on both biceps and sometimes have a shaved head. I also work for a Fortune 500 company and go to grad school, have never been arrested and even have a perfectly clean driving record. My wife works for one of the largest lawfirms in the midwest and we live in an upper-middle class area. My point is this: You can't judge a book by it's cover (how PC is that?). I worked retail long enough to tell you that scum bags come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I've had a young black guy who drove a luxury SUVs drop $2500 on a bicycle (turns out he was a pharmacutical sales rep) and I've had middle age white guy try to steal $300 of Dom Perignon.

 

[spacemanspiff]

hmmm, bigot police, you say? i think i now have something else to add to my signature line.
thanks!

 

[solareclipse]

I could go look at a gun in store x and like it. Then i can call person y because that person might be looking for that gun or asked me to go there and look at it for him because he is either working or too far out to go on a blind chase.

Then after i make my call and deliver details to that person he comes and buys his gun. I am right there salivating because well, gun pron is an addiction.

But assumptions like this whole thread are idiotic. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? yalls logic of preempting these purchases by throwing people out (and in turn get sued) is no better than the antis for wanting to ban guns to prevent crime.

 

[Taurus 66]

I could go look at a gun in store x and like it. Then i can call person y because that person might be looking for that gun or asked me to go there and look at it for him because he is either working or too far out to go on a blind chase.

Then after i make my call and deliver details to that person he comes and buys his gun. I am right there salivating because well, gun pron is an addiction.

But assumptions like this whole thread are idiotic. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? yalls logic of preempting these purchases by throwing people out (and in turn get sued) is no better than the antis for wanting to ban guns to prevent crime.

Huh??

 

[Dave72]

Gangbangers Smoking Pot at Range

A year ago, my dad and I were shooting at a rifle range in So. Cal. Several very conspicuous gangbanger types were there shooting. The rangemasters were keeping a close eye on them. The gangbangers were caught smoking pot in there car between cease-fires; the rangemasters ejected them from the range.

No point here, just not something I ever expected to encounter at a controlled range.

 

[loose cannon]

im in the "looks like a duck walks like a duck,,,,,, crowd.

and i never heard of any buisness being sued for excersizing their RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYBODY. but then it could be i dont get out much.

around here ive seen many punks and tweekers told to leave and dont return.

 

[Lupinus]

yeah, thats why we only sell to good white folks.

I have seen plenty of wannabe gang bangers who were white. And I wont bother with them anymore then I will bother with the black ones.

 

[Kodiak AK]

A little skinny asian kid, didn't look no more than 19, was fixing to buy a Bushmaster. He was literally jumping up and down! I mean, he looked ENTIRELY too happy to be buying one. He paid cash, $1300 for this one. Yeh, the store it overpriced horribly.

I thought Skunk couldn't buy an AR in California?

 

[Mad Bodhi]

I guess iv'e been lucky.I'm a big Hispanic guy with a shaved head have Skinhead tattoos thougn I doubt anyone but another Skin would know(not Neo-Nazi or Aryan,not all Skins are racist or even white you know) originally from Los Angeles but now in the midwest.Never had any issue with gun stores.But then again I dress respectably, speak proper english and am knowledgable about firearms.One time however I was with a buddy who was trying to decide on a shotgun and I grabbed a Bennelli M1 for him to check out and which he ended up buying.The clerk asks if it's for him or me with a funny look since I was holding it when we got up to the counter.I told him I was an old school forged steel and walnut kind of guy and my favored Social Shotgun was an 8 shot Ithaca 37 Featherlite.Well,then we started bull ????ting about how the new plastic fantastics don't hold a candle to the tried and true classics and my poor friend had to wait nearly an hour for his gun.

 

[thorazine]

I usually stroll in to the gun shop in my PJ's with coffee and credit card in hand.

 

[mmike87]

Paying In Cash
my father who as far as I know has never broken a law in all his life (he is tooooo goood) walks around with a huge bankroll on him. He goes to the bank once every two or three weeks to get cash out and then uses that. He always has. I've got nothing wrong with people paying in cash - in fact I think it makes for much more sound fiscal policy and wish I would as well. We would all be better off if we learned to use wads of cash more and credit/debit cards less.

I bought my Les Baer Super-Tac ($1900) in cash. I also bought my big screen TV ($2700) with cash back in 2001.

Cash doesn't make you a criminal.

I do, however support the right of ANY dealer to refuse to sell to ANYONE for ANY reason if they feel uncomfortable with the transaction. It's their ass on the line, literally - and no one should be forced into something that going to put them potentially at risk.

 

[Phaetos]

Your first example was a good one, but I don't see the problem with the kid.

Something about him just .... didn't sit right with me. When you see other people buying a Bushmaster, do they literally jump around while waiting for the guy behind the counter? I mean this guy was acting like he was fixing to get laid by the head cheerleader. Entirely too happy.

 

[Phaetos]

I thought Skunk couldn't buy an AR in California?

I'm not in Kali.

 

[Phaetos]

Riight, all that cash and they'll use their guns to rob a convenience store. Bank, maybe, not a convenience store.

I was being a bit facetious with the stop-n-rob thing. Let's just say it didn't appear any good would come out of it.

 

[Phaetos]

Perhaps they paid cash because there's a 5% discount for cash purchases, like at my local stores? I'd pay cash for a $20 discount I could spend on ammo.

No discounts for anything at that store. He won't even HAGGLE for a little discount to get the sale. In fact, I told the owner to his face the other day he was too damn overpriced and I wouldn't be buying a damn thing in his store, unless it was under $15.

 

[Phaetos]

Of course, asians look 15 years old until they are around 40

Even then they still look 17, man ... don't get me started. Off topic... must stop now.

 

[Phaetos]

The thing is when "profiling" people you see buying guns. It can get downright amusing. As I was shopping, directly after Katrina when EVERYONE was buying a gun, when standing in the stores waiting for help it was quite amusing. Everyone was watching everyone else to see what their intentions were and how they acted and presented themselves. I couldn't decide who was more scared about people buying guns, the whites who saw all the "hip-hop" wannabes buying guns with cash rolls or the "hip-hop" wannabes watching all the white people buying guns like crazy Who was more scared of who? It was quite funny.

 

[bogie]

When you see other people buying a Bushmaster, do they literally jump around while waiting for the guy behind the counter? I mean this guy was acting like he was fixing to get laid by the head cheerleader. Entirely too happy.

That's our Skunky! Is the head cheerleader Korean and like precision rifles?

And Spiff may be a little weird, but he's OUR kinda weird.

Personally, I try not to knee-jerk with judgements based on outward appearance, but sometimes it's hard... Sometimes instinct is right.

Then again, I know one cop who has a most excellent mullet and does the world's greatest tweaker impression...

 

[VirgilCaine]

The thing is when "profiling" people you see buying guns. It can get downright amusing. As I was shopping, directly after Katrina when EVERYONE was buying a gun, when standing in the stores waiting for help it was quite amusing. Everyone was watching everyone else to see what their intentions were and how they acted and presented themselves. I couldn't decide who was more scared about people buying guns, the whites who saw all the "hip-hop" wannabes buying guns with cash rolls or the "hip-hop" wannabes watching all the white people buying guns like crazy Who was more scared of who? It was quite funny.

LOL.

 

[nucstl1]

Another vote for the ducks.

I have been caught in the crossfire of some gangbangers before and have witnessed a couple more rob a convenience store, so I am definately in the Looks like duck, walks like a duck,.....group. In both cases, the suspects were geared to the hilt with sean jean and phat farm, and expensive shoes. The city I live in has a higher crime rate per capita than Chicago, and a majority of those crimes are gang/drug related....and comitted by some of those folks. I think most shops around here send them on their way, or the gangbangers are not stupid enough to shop as many current and former LEOs frequent the shops. Personally, when I encounter someone I suspect is a gangbanger or a violence risk, I get out of the situation as soon as possible. If they are a target, your at greater risk because they use the street and convenience stores for target practice.

 

[Stiletto Null]

Hey! I'm an almost-20 skinny Asian kid, and I know I was bouncy as hell when I was buying my first rifle (Mauser, $150).

Anyway, places I've been to have had very clean-cut crowds, but they weren't in heavily urban areas either. I remember hearing the counter crew at PDHSC talking about some suss-looking "kids" from "earlier in the week" one day while I was browsing, though.

I'm sorely tempted to walk into a shop one day, cold (as in one I have not been to before), and deadpan "Hi, do you have any Deagles?", just to see the reaction.

 

[SilentStalker]

You guys haven't seen nothing LOL. Last weekend when I was at the gunshow which are heavily unregulated, I seen some very shady looking people that I would have to say were none other than gangbangers. They were all tattooed up, wearing doo rags or however you spell it, wearing gang colors, had way too much cash on them, $300 shoes, $400 cell phone and their incompetence of guns gave it away. One of them picked up a customized pistol that had a lengthened barrel on it which I admit looked an awful lot like a silencer but you could tell that it was not LOL. Anyways the one that picked up the gun asked the guy behind the booth how much the silencers were and how much he could get several for LOL. Can you believe that? The guy behind the booth explained to him what it was, but I did not stick around to hear all of it. Anyways you can say what you want about judging by appearanced and whatnot but when people ask specifically about silencers, even if you could sell them like this, you would seriously have to question why and for what purpose they wanted a silencer. I don't think I really need to spell that out LOL as most of you already know. Anyways yeah that is just one thing I seen at the show that was very disturbing, but believe me there was much more.