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Get a Utah Non-Resident CCW Permit it's honored in 31 States!

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  1. Maximum1

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  2. migoi

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    Yes,

    the Utah non-resident is considered a very good bargain. Mine works well for me because it covers the states I usually visit when I am on the mainland (except for Maryland where my daughter is in the Naval Academy.)

    The ironic part is that the state I currently live in trusts me to teach its children and trusts me to sign the affidavits declaring someone has had sufficient training to safely load, fire, and unload handguns... but they don't trust me enough to allow me to be armed when I transport multiple firearms and ammo to the range to teach the classes they require. Thirty one other states though trust me to walk amongst the public armed.

    Counting down until I relocate to the hills of Arkansas.

    migoi
     
  3. Joe Link

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    What does a Utah Non-Resident CCW permit cost and how does an Oregonian such as myself go about getting one?
     
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    SC?

    How does a NH permit help you for SC?

    SC only recognizes resident permits for those it has reciprocity with (and do they even have reciprocity with NH?)


    from: http://www.sled.state.sc.us/sled/default.asp?Category=sccwp&Service=Reciprocity


    As far as the Utah permit... many states set the same condition. They only grant reciprocity to Utah resident permits. Check the laws for each state to ensure you are complying.
     
  6. SJG26

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    Utah permit info...................

    http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html

    Pay particular attention to the list of certified instructors---find one near you for the test portion!
     
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    It was noted:

    Utah permit info...................
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    http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html

    Pay particular attention to the list of certified instructors---find one near you for the test portion!


    Just to clarify. There is no test required nor any shooting exercise. What is required is a class on basic safe handling etc. Utah has a minimum mandatory curriculum so most instructors do not reinvent the wheel for their class, they use the mandated minimum as their guideline.

    Also, it is good in 31 States ONLY if you are a resident of Utah. New Hampshire, Michigan and Florida (for sure, perhaps others also) require that you be a resident of the issuing State (here Utah), so if you live say in Minnesota with a Utah Permit, your permit is not honored in those three States because you are not a resident of Utah.

    It is a nice Permit to get (State application fee is $59, good for five years, current renewal fee is $10) and it and Florida are the big boys of reciprocity. But, the FL Permit is $117 to apply and $107 to renew (also good for 5 years), so it is not was widely sought (unless you must carry in Florida, then it is a good, perhaps your only, option.)

    Utah is awash in applicants...takes about 60-75 days as of today to get the Permit. Class costs vary from instructor to instructor, and prints and photo are required also.
     
  8. obm

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    next time you're vacationing in Las Vegas you can take a CCW course:

    http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/ccw.htm

    there are several companies offering CCW courses in the area.
     
  9. Kontiki

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    Can anyone tell me if they will wave the firearm safety course for veterans? I spent 4 years teaching folks how to shoot while I was in and I don't really want to spend the money on a course.
     
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    Oregon Firearms Academy is offering a class in January. They're just outside Lebanon.
     
  11. PaulBk

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    Here you go...

    My Utah class cost $75, another $10 to roll the prints, $8 for passport photos, and finally $59 to Utah for the non-res permit. Jim Jacobe taught my Utah class. He is based in Salem, OR.

    http://www.jimjacobe.com/

    Current wait time has been reported at 4 months due to the popularity of the non-res permit.

    HTH.

    -PB
     
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    No, not unless something has changed in their law lately.

    The course is not a big deal. It depends on the instructor, but it has to cover Utah laws, and whatever else the instructor feels necessary to present. I think I gave less than $50 for mine.


    If you think that having reciprocity is valuable to you, then get it. If not, then don't. VA won't recognize my PA permit, they will the UT permit. Its worth it when I travel, so I got it.
     
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    I'm a Utah instructor. If any of you guys want to pay for my vacation, get a big group of people together and fly me out to your state. :D
     
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    Kontiki said: Can anyone tell me if they will wave the firearm safety course for veterans? I spent 4 years teaching folks how to shoot while I was in and I don't really want to spend the money on a course.

    Utah does not but Florida does. Jim.
     
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    Joey asked about cost........

    Joey asked about how an Oregonian (this question applies to all non-residents) goes about getting a Utah CCW and how much does it cost.


    The application link provided (in my original email) contains what is needed to apply for a non-resident CCW. However, the only requirement that is not clear and it took a phone call to clarify was the training requirement since applicants must complete a firearms familiarity course certified by BCI (Utah). Since this course must be completed before one can apply for a Utah permit I thought since I already passed Oregon CCW certified training and already have an Oregon CCW that would meet their training requirement, it does not. Utah requires ALL applicants to complete the Utah Certification Training…So how does a non-resident get this training without traveling to Utah? There are certified instructions in your state from which you get take this training. Here’s a link to the list of out of state certified instructors: http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFInstructors.html

    Please note: If a local instructor is not on the list then I recommend you contact training center near you to see if they have a certified Utah Instructor. Since Utah non-resident permits are in high demand it may not be too difficult to locate an instructor in your state.

    The second question asked was “how much does it cost?”. A non-refundable fee of $59.00 must be included with your application. This fee consists of $35.00 for application and permit processing and $24.00 charged by the F.B.I. to process your fingerprint cards. There is also the cost of the training class which is different.

    Here’s another helpful Utah link: CONCEALED FIREARM PERMITS IN UTAH
    http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html

    Additional detail on the application processing:
    http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFNewApp.html


    One item of interest: 58% of all CCW issued in Utah are issued to non-residence.
     
  16. Maximum1

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    “As far as the Utah permit"

    Quote from raxafarian: “As far as the Utah permit... many states set the same condition. They only grant reciprocity to Utah resident permits. Check the laws for each state to ensure you are complying.”

    It's always good advice to check the law in your state….Here's a link which should help to answer your questions regarding States "reciprocity".

    Will Utah honor concealed firearm permits from other states and which states honor Utah permits (whether resident or non-resident): http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPFAQ/FAQOther.html

    Hand Gun Laws (by State)
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/
     
  17. EOD Guy

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    Actually, it's only 28 states

    A Utah permit is only valid in 27 other states, unless you are a Utah resident. Some states do not recognize nonresident permits from other states.
     
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    Been a while since I looked, and perhaps there have been some changes, but I recall if you get an FL non res CCW, a Utah non res gets you 3 more states that honor non res CCW. I have FL, Utah, MA, NH, NV, and MA CCW BTW. A PITA to get them all done, but worth it i feel.
     
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    What is the advantage of having so many? What point am I missing?

    I just can't seem to justify the expense/trouble of getting a non-res permit. My NC permit is good in all the States I have any reason to visit (neighboring States, CO and FL) and many more I have no plans to go to.
     
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    "What is the advantage of having so many? What point am I missing?"

    The advantage is what it appears: I can CCCW in almost every state in the US. It's as close to a universal nationwide CCW as we can get right now. For some people that matters, and to some, it does not I suppose.

    "I just can't seem to justify the expense/trouble of getting a non-res permit. My NC permit is good in all the States I have any reason to visit (neighboring States, CO and FL) and many more I have no plans to go to."

    Not being able to read the future, I don't know what states I may visit and like the idea of being able to CCW if I do. I live in MA, so that's my MA CCW. I own property in ME, so that's my ME CCW. NH is so easy and cheap to get, and I have to go through NH to get to ME, that's my NH CCW. I go to FL a few times a year on biz and pleasure, so that's my FL CCW. Being I was already getting all the paper work done for the FL, and Utah is also easy to get and adds additional states, I threw that one in there too. I don't know what states accept NC, but MA accepts none and very few accept MA CCW.
     
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    OK, 28 States, the point being that it's better than being restricted to only one state (the one you live in) and since there are moves afoot by other states to join in the number will only climb...... The need to carry doesn't end just because you just crossed a state’s border.
     
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    I think this is a good idea if you will be traveling through those states with reciprocity and are likely to carry a gun.

    However, doing this is troubling to me on a couple of points.
    1)This burdens the Utah system and may slow down Utah applicants who don't have their permit for their own state yet.
    2)This has been getting some press recently and from my experience this type of press is usually bad for the pro gun crowd, the media rarely shows this stuff in a favorable light.
     
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    What?

    Quote, “However, doing this is troubling to me on a couple of points. 1) This burdens the Utah system and may slow down Utah applicants who don't have their permit for their own state yet. 2) This has been getting some press recently and from my experience this type of press is usually bad for the pro gun crowd, the media rarely shows this stuff in a favorable light.”

    1) We should not worry more about overburdening the State of Utah than our personal safety. However, I understand your point about backlog: A current snap-shot shows over 2,600 applicants in BCI’s backlog and the majority of applicants are out of state residents but this is an issue for the bureaucrats to work and shouldn’t be a factor when considering applying for a non-resident permit. Besides, the program is bringing in record revenues so they should use some of that money to add staff. Oh yeah, this is now a money maker for the state: it brings in more money than it spends (supporting data available on the Utah website).

    2) With all due respect, who cares what press it thinks...? Our Second Amendment RIGHT is printed right there in the Constitution and I don't believe the Founding Fathers were worried about the Press....so neither am I. By the way, the press made a federal case years ago when states started to pass Right to Carry laws the press claimed it would mean the "Wild Wild West" all over again.... What impact did that have: We went from around 10 Right to Carry states to what 38 now :) Bottom-line, the gay community aren't too silent about gay rights...Abortion rights folks are too silent about abortion so why should we be silent about a TRUE Constitutional RIGHT…The Right to Carry and Bear Arms?

    Please note, this is not directed at you so please don't take it persioally it is for the general consumption of this forum as I believe you're not the only one worried about those two points.
     
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    States Honoring Non Resident Permmits

    Florida, Michigan, New Hampshire, South Carolina and West Virginia are the only states that will not honor non resident permits. All other states that say they will honor another states permit will also honor that states Non Resident permmit if the state issues one.
     
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