GF does NOT like guns...

[Mnemesyne]

I hate to say this, but even as a woman I agree with the rest of the posts...If she's anti gun now, that most likely won't change but would get worse as your relationship progresses....Find someone who enjoys your hobby/interest and won't endanger your abilities to own or enjoy your guns

 

[Ben Shepherd]

Ditto, technosavant!! It isn't fun but I've done it before.

You need to look at the BIG picture, the LONG TERM aspects.

It doesn't sound good from what you said.

 

[bearmgc]

Geez man, there's been so many past threads on this very subject. Think about it. Its about values. She's hyper-anti. How much time do you want to spend on this gal and why. And the past reply about with any heated argument comes the potential , on her word, that you could lose your carry rights FOREVER. Talk about control issues you don't need.

 

[Mauserguy]

"She puts a lot of value in the opinions of others (except me)."
This sounds like trouble- Dump her!
Mauserguy

 

[Taurus 66]

She's just anti-gun. Part of the problem is that her sister is a cop, as was her father many years ago. She hears the stories her sister tells her, and she's decided that the only people that should own a gun are LEO's. She also is hearing from her friends that she cannot cave on this issue, because she needs to exert her right to make decisions and stick by them or some crap . She puts a lot of value in the opinions of others (except me).

Just tell her flat out she needs to stop with her left wing garbage or you're through with her. Give her your ultimatum! Grow a pair and stand up for yourself!! You also stated she gets in a heated rage when you talk on the subject. Sounds like she has temper tantrum issues that she never outgrew.
Nobody has to shout at others to get their point across. From what you've told us, she's not worth a horses ass (IMO), and you're just wasting your time.

 

[Strings]

hmmm... "heated rage", huh?

Not only will I agree with the "run fast" crowd, but I'll add a point: you MIGHT want to see about an RO against HER. Not to be vindictive, but she COULD (when you tell her "buh-bye!") file against you ("he hit me" can be more than enough). Go pre-emptive, and find one in your own species...

 

[Zundfolge]

Oh and while we're all telling you how to live your life here GET THE H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS OUT OF MARYLAND.

'Cause right now you're beggin' for the girlfriend's permission to own guns ... once you get past her you still have to beg the state for permission as well.


Move to America.

 

[Jeeper]

Her attitude to logical arguments is what you should really be concerned with. If she cant respond to logic then how can you ever relate to her anyway. What would the future of your relationship be like?

 

[odysseus]

One of the guys I used to work with was married to a woman like this. She was a former public school teacher, and still teaches the "hands are not for hitting" class. Poor guy likes to shoot skeet, but his wife makes him leave his gun at the skeet club.

Between the two of them, they are raising the most unspeakable twinkie of a son you can possibly imagine.

Man, that's quite a fear I would have. Damn! I tell you, those former public school teachers are a crazy, crazy bunch.

This is a though subject, because I am sure you have a lot of feelings for her, and it's not for anyone to really be able to tell you - but you asked.

You need to have a heart to heart. Maybe see if you can get her to see your point of view and go shooting with you. However from what you are saying her family and friends are saying, it looks bad. Also, this is only one particular issue. How are you two on politics? Different? Well then have your fun, but don't expect anything relationship wise to be nothing but a lot of angry work or pray for a miracle.

Let me tell you, I have dated all spectrums. I am also getting married soon now. She's a wonderful woman. We believe in much the same things. Our values are very similar. At first she was wary of the strength I preach on 2nd Amendment issues and my collection. However she was not unfamiliar with them. I have taken her shooting, and she is now very comfortable with this.

I tell you. That's a wonderful thing. I couldn't imagine sharing a house with someone who wasn't.

 

[buzzcut]

Alex45acp

< Ejector seat test photo >

ROTFLMAO Hahahahaha! Thanks, that is THE most hilarious reply in a forum I have ever seen. The Fiance was LOL also.

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[M-Rex]

Quote:
She puts a lot of value in the opinions of others (except me).


That says it all. Find someone else who does value your opinion.

Not to put to fine a point on it, but dump her. Now. As soon as you get off this forum, go to the telephone and tell her you never want to be around her again.

This girl has no respect for you as a person or as a man.

Do it.

Now.

 

[M-Rex]

I got my handgun kindof under the radar....when I told her about it I already had it, and basically said there was no way I was returning it (had always wanted a gun, but never got off my azz to do it....just had a recent "kick in the pants" though). Now I'm wanting a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gun, but she's not budging. Not even through inheritance, where I stand to inherit a ~WWI 1911 ca1918, and my grandfathers rifle ca mid-1800's.

As a reminder...

...She has no power. She has no input on YOUR decision. She doesn't even get a vote. She is welcome to not budge all she wants, but her freedom ends right about the place where yours begins. She has absolutely ZERO power to say anything about your decision, or influence you in regards to purchasing, or inheriting, a firearm. She is not family. She is not a wife. She is nothing more than a walking space filler.

If you have any respect for yourself at all, DUMP HER NOW.

 

[orionengnr]

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[pax]

<-- female, married 18 years.

She also is hearing from her friends that she cannot cave on this issue, because she needs to exert her right to make decisions and stick by them or some crap .

Your girlfriend and her friends are not too far from the truth about that much, anyway.

Relationship 101, aka "setting personal boundaries" :

She cannot tell you what to do with your life or your time or your money. Your life is your territory.

You cannot tell her what to do with her life, her time, her money. Her life is her territory.

The problem seems to be that both of you do not have any idea where your own personal boundaries lie, and are trying to draw your personal boundaries solidly within the other person's territory. That is a recipe for a relational train wreck.

If she doesn't want to buy, shoot, or carry guns, that falls solidly into her territory. You don't have any authority over that and you're a fool if you think you do.

If you want to buy, shoot, or carry a gun, that falls solidly into your territory. She doesn't have any authority over that and you're a fool if you let her take it.

As someone else said, it's not about guns. What is going on here is a basic control issue. Does she have the right, power, authority to dictate what items you may purchase with your money that you have earned? Nope. You do not need her permission to spend your money in any way you see fit.

I see no future in your relationship with her until you sort this very basic issue out in a way that both of you can live with. If you cannot do that, then you really are better off without her -- certainly, you're better off if you can avoid entangling your lives any further until you get some boundary lines drawn.

The ones you've got so far are drawn too far into each other's territory, and that's why she "rages" when the topic comes up.

pax

The first time you buy a house you see how pretty the paint is and buy it. The second time you look to see if the basement has termites. It's the same with men. -- Lupe Velez

 

[crewsr]

be up-front ASAP

its totally a control issue for her. You better grow a sack and STICK TO YOUR GUNS. IF SHE REALLY LOVES YOU SHE WILL ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU SIMPLY ENJOY THIS SPORT/PASSION. But YOU have to tell her the truth of what you are thinking. That you believe in the 2 Amendment and that you want more guns.

BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL HER THE TRUTH NOW......SOON........DON'T WASTE EACH OTHERS TIME BY LYING AND DELAYING WHO YOU ARE. If she puts this subject between you two then its her problem, her choice. And let her know that.

Sure go ahead and explain the reasons why you want them (2ndA Rights, Hunting, Honey I took a long look at world history and what Govts and criminals do to the Unarmed,....to this fits with individual Liberty big time.) but in the end.....if she loves you then she will accept your dreams and yes your phases!!! (I'm married ......have lots of phases....some cost more than others but she shakes her head and loves me anyway.) Took me time to find her BUT I DID. She knows there are some things I will NEVER compromise on. Guns are one of them. ( but she does understand why I'm so strong on this issue) But there are things she feels equally strong on as well and I respect that.....its what makes her character. Shes a REDHEAD!!

Be honest, dont delay, shoot often

 

[shooterIII]

When I was dating my wife I stood her up to go duck hunting with a buddy (who also was the best man at my wedding). She was upset but lived with it (I did call and cancel the date). Before we got married I told the that getting married did not mean I was going to quit hunting and shooting. When we got married she had one week of vacition and I had two, so I took a week to hunt.
She didn't like it but accepted it. She did do some trap shooting and really enjoyed it, but she had so manny things going that after a couple of years she quit. We have been married 40+ years when I come home from shooting or hunting she is interested if I had a good time. The key is make sure that they undersand that getting married doesn't mean you change things that you love to do.

 

[JohnKSa]

It doesn't get better than it is now...

Going into a marriage with a disagreement like you have and thinking that it's going to work out is purely wishful thinking.

This kind of attempt to exert control this early in a relationship is a very, VERY bad symptom.

It's only going to get worse.

One more thing. She doesn't have to convince you to get rid of the guns. If all else fails, she only has to tell the police you hit her and you not only lose ALL your guns, you can NEVER buy any more.

 

[pete f]

A bandwagon is moving and i feel the need to jump on.

Have a face to face with her. tell her point blank (if you do) that you love her, and that having conflicting ideas with her does not mean that you do not love her. Then tell her that certain ideas are very important to you and that this is one of them, and if she can not get around that idea, then she does not love you enough to accept you. And in that case you feel the need to stop wasting both of your time. Tell her that her freinds are wrong. it is not a control issue, it is a love issue, either she loves you enough to trust and accept you for what you are, or she does not and it is time to start seeing other people. Create the environment of you as the dedicated loving man and her as a the shallow uncommited one. she will cave fast. if not she does not love you enough to worry about.

 

[Justin]

I suppose it depends on how important firearms are to you.

For me, they are a symbolic extension of certain deeply held philosophical beliefs.

I would no more date a girl who was anti gun than I would date a girl who wanted me to become a Scientologist.

 

[MICHAEL T]

I would simply tell her GOOD BY! end of subject.

 

[fulloflead]

Don't talk about guns.

Talk about your relationship.

The gun issue will work itself out when you've worked out your relationship problems one way or the other.

For the record, my girlfriend hates guns too, but she loves, trusts and respects me as I do her. I have an area of the house where I can play with my toys and she doesn't have the see them. She got the big bathroom all to herself.

.

 

[ruger270man]

im lazy, id probably just dump her..

good luck either way

 

[steveracer]

This is like my wife.

I just stopped telling her about gun stuff all together. When we're out of the house and she feels that I have on a gun, she just moves her hand, and that's that. What could she do, really? Take it away? Come on, seriously, guys, she might be a pain in the ass anti, but that could be the only issue that's really a problem for him. My wife is an irrational psycho about guns. Whatever. I have guns, I shoot guns, I buy guns, I carry guns, that's that. She has exactly NO say in this matter. I have everything locked in a safe that only I have the combo to. She doesn't know how many guns I have, how many rounds I have, holsters, magazines, etc. I get out what I want to carry, I put it on, and I go about my day. Really, if there was some actual concern here, it's lost on me.

 

[mnrivrat]

Ask a question and you'll get some answers won't you ?

Maybe a lot of this is not what you wanted to hear , but there is a lot of good advise here. I tend to agree with Pax's approach and line of thought.

Defining boundries of a relationship means each giving the other personal freedom of choice within good common sense concepts. Even when you disagree , you should be able to live with that, and accept that each has their rights, wants, and needs. (agree to disagree so to speak)

If that can't happen , then your relationship is in trouble.

It is a subject that requires an understanding and needs to be addressed like two adults. You can control yourself, you don't have the means or the right to control others. That goes for both members of a relationship.

 

[joab]

When I was dating my wife I stood her up to go duck hunting with a buddy (who also was the best man at my wedding). She was upset but lived with it

I went on an overnight hunting trip on Dec 23rd. The trip went a little long and I came home the morning Dec 26th.
My wife was upset, but divorce me by June and got over it