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Glock 17 v. H&K USP for loaded chamber carry.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Nov 29, 2012.

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H&K USP 9 v Glock 17: while carrying with a loaded chamber.

Poll closed Feb 27, 2013.
  1. H&K USP 9

    39 vote(s)
    52.0%
  2. Glock 17

    36 vote(s)
    48.0%
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  1. el Godfather

    el Godfather Member

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    Dear THR:
    I have both USP 9 and Glock 17. I always carry with a loaded chamber. I want to know which do you think is a better option among the two when carrying while chamber loaded?

    Off course, other then internal safeties Glock has none other. Whereas on USP you can carry it loaded and cocked, cocked and locked, de-cocked, and de-cocked and locked.

    I personally prefer the USP with a loaded chamber. Generally de-cocked and locked unless situation and circumstances dictate otherwise. I have carried Glock 17 with loaded chamber and I am fine with that as well. Just felt to utilize the variety of options available on USP.


    Thanks.
     
  2. 2wheels

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    In absolute terms, I'd say the USP is safer. A safety + a longer and heavier DA trigger pull makes AD/NDs a little harder.

    On the other hand, there's the argument that the Glock doesn't have a safety to forget (if you use it) or a long/heavy initial DA trigger pull to deal with.

    That said, a competent gun owner who trains with and takes care of his equipment should be safe carrying either gun.
     
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  3. hAkron

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    The one you can still use to defend yourself in the (very unlikely) event that the safety on the other one fails.
     
  4. psyopspec

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    Either. If a person is competent and safe in their gun handling, the Glock is fine. If they are not, a safety liver will not protect them from their own negligence.
     
  5. hardluk1

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    I have no worry about ether one. I have carreid stricker pistols for 6 years + that have no other safety other than in the trigger/fireing system. I will not carry a handgun for defence that has or needs any external safety.
     
  6. Bovice

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    I have heard of Glock ADs when holstering because of clothing being drug into the trigger guard and snagging. The standard glock has neither a heavy or long trigger pull.

    The USP will have a DA first pull if the safety is off and carried hammer down. That's harder to AD.
     
  7. jcredman

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    I agee with Bovice, the term glock leg just didntvcome from out of thin air, that being said , I own both and have carried both, just a bit more comfortable with a safety, especially under concealment
     
  8. Robbins290

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    pratice makes perfect. I won't wanna try to manipulate a safety in a situation where I only have one hand. I want to be able to draw and pull as soon as humanly possible. I carry my 30sf that way. I was nervous at first, but with caution and pratice. I'm 100% confindant.
     
  9. Dan-O

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    My first handgun that I purchased the day I turned 21 was an HK USP 9mm. At the time I was young and dumb and thought that a handgun might mistakenly fire if it didn't have an external/manual safety.

    Now that I am quite a bit older and more experienced with firearms....especially handguns, I carry a Glock on a daily basis as my CC weapon.
     
  10. Skribs

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    Not voting. Both should be safe if you're following the four rules and using a proper holster. Both can cause NDs if you don't. Thinking one is safer probably makes that one more dangerous by the very virtue that you won't practice as safe handling with that one. That said, I'd rather have the Glock between the two.
     
  11. el Godfather

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    Why usp safety is a problem when using one hand?
     
  12. 56hawk

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    Easy answer for me since the USP was my first choice for concealed carry. I usually carry mine cocked and locked with a holster that has a thumb strap that goes between the hammer and slide. Any other time it's decocked with the safety on.
     
  13. Bobson

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    It did take me quite a while to get used to carrying my Glock 19 with a round in the chamber, even knowing the obvious benefits and importance of doing so. I carried it for close to three weeks without a round in the chamber, because I just couldn't get used to the idea of carrying with the round chambered without a safety - despite knowing cops do it every day all over the country.

    Once I forced myself to get past that, it was only a day or two before it stopped bothering me. All that to say I think both are just fine, but the USP definitely offers more options, which you pointed out. I wouldn't hesitate to carry a USP in any configuration you mentioned, and I actually did vote for the USP in your poll. Mostly because of the various carry options Glocks just don't offer.
     
  14. RBid

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    Either.
     
  15. Inebriated

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    I carried Glock since day one.

    I'm comfortable carrying it Condition 1, so obviously I'd be comfortable carrying a DA/SA in Condition 1.

    Heck, give me a revolver cocked with a hair trigger, and I'd carry it. As long as the gun is in proper working order, is in a holster, and I keep my finger off the trigger, it doesn't matter what the trigger mechanism is.
     
  16. Jed Carter

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    I would carry what ever I shot better, what I can draw and hit a target multiple times the fastest. It's been said "If it wasn't dangerous I wouldn't carry the damn thing" I agree.
     
  17. jon86

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    Yeah, this.
     
  18. Bovice

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    Some people are incorrectly thinking the HK requires disengagement of a safety to fire. That's not necessarily true. It can be carried decocked with the safety off, like you would any standard SIG Sauer pistol.

    It's not me keeping my fingers off the trigger that worries me. It's that jacket hood toggle dangling into my holster that snags the trigger during a reholstering. Plus, having an exposed hammer allows you to place your thumb over it while reholstering. If the trigger is snagged, it has to push your thumb out of the way in addition to the DA pull weight.

    More layers of safety are better.
     
  19. el Godfather

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    If I am not mistaken pt92 has safety/decock set up like usp,, but off course it taurus
     
  20. Onmilo

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    I have both and carry both "chamber loaded".
    Both are equally as safe as the other.
     
  21. Girodin

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    They are both perfectly safe to carry with a loaded chamber provided proper gun handling. Without proper gun handling neither is safe. I think the original question is kind of silly (I was trying to find a nice word to use) and loaded chamber would not factor one bit into which I would prefer.
     
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    I own both, but usually carry the Glock 17 due to it's less bulky design.
     
  23. SwampWolf

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    I agree with this synopsis. But I'm also of the opinion that the Glock is a less "forgiving" design in the context "to err is human"...
     
  24. Knockdownpower

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    I have a Glocks and a HK USP 45 compact, (same decock & safty sys. and the 9mm) and I always carry +1 in both designs. Perfectly safe as long as I am.
     
  25. Fremmer

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    With all those different carry options on the hk, better pick one and use it exclusively.

    So you carry hammer down safety on, first shot double action?
     
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