Glock or Sig?

[WayaX]

Personally, if I were looking at two guns 'til the end of time, I wouldn't want the 1911 as either choice. My advice is to sell the 1911 and get a Sig and a GLOCK or Sig and an H&K. I have both Sigs and GLOCKs (no 1911's...if you didn't already guess, I don't like them).

If you insist with keeping the 1911, I would recommend the GLOCK for other reasons than you listed. The GLOCK is much more rust resistant than a 1911 or Sig and therefore can last longer under different conditions than whichever other gun you choose. Also, I would recommend a 26 and not a 19. If you have a 1911 then get a smaller, more readily concealable gun. The 26 will still take all the high cap 9mm magazines, but will have the benefit of becoming small if needed.

 

[kerank]

I would go with the SIG. I think the G19 is a fantastic gun, and probably Glocks best. I just prefer 228 and 239.

The 239 is one of my favorite guns of all. Fantastic slim grip that easy to hide, but not so small (like G26 or other sub-compacts) that you can't shoot it well. In fact, it is a fantastic "range pistol", and far more accurate than it has a right to be. The slim grip is easier to conceal, and the slim mags are easy to cary and extra if capacity is a concern for you. Personally, I'm not one that has a problem with 8 or 9 rounds. Another surprise for me was that my P239 in .40 is my favorite .40. It's very "shootable", especially with the fantastic hogue grips available for the P239.\

YMMV

 

[YK]

I don't own either, can't help with direct answer.

I tend to choose my pistols based on feature sets, not makes. I always felt that, once you round up a few reliable manufacturers, you then look at feature set that you prefer and get the tool with required features, whatever brand might be.

My feature set analysis on Glock might look like "proven reliable - proven accurate - unusual grip angle - finger groves - same-pull trigger with short reset - no manual safety - requires trigger pull during disassembly". Feature set on 239 would be just opposite, except for the first two.

But I digress... The purpose of my post was to comment on Glock's accuracy. Somebody said that Sigs hold edge there. 3 days ago I witnessed several shooters consistently hitting 10 inch plate from 50 and 75 yards using stock Glocks. Some of them did it one-handed. Some weak-handed. One gentleman hit that plate from 100 yards, two-handed hold.

Again, I don't own either, and I concede that Sigs maybe have accuracy edge over Glocks. But, from what I saw last Monday, one might need a high-power scope (should we argue, Schmidt&Bender vs. Nightforce?) to find that edge...

 

[WayaX]

My feature set analysis on Glock might look like "proven reliable - proven accurate - unusual grip angle - finger groves - same-pull trigger with short reset - no manual safety - requires trigger pull during disassembly". Feature set on 239 would be just opposite, except for the first two.

Hogue has a grip for Sigs with finger grooves. Sig offers a DAK trigger that is DAO, giving the same trigger pull each time. Even with a regular trigger, a Sig does NOT have a manual safety.

Both pistols are generally more accurate than their user, so accuracy generally goes to whichever one you happen to shoot better.

 

[yongxingfreesty]

already have a glock, get a sig. get a taste of everything.

 

[YK]

WayaX: I stand corrected on manual safety on 239.

Actually, finger grooves and absence of manual safety are "negative" features for me. I included them in "feature set" just because they are what they are - features, but I didn't mention whether I like them or not 'cause this post is not about my preferences.

I am aware of DAO trigger on Sig. Correct me (again) if I am wrong, but Glock's reset is much shorter?

However, your general point is well taken. Many features are modifiable, for example, finger grooves can be removed and manual safety can be installed on Glock. Real question is at what cost, to what end, and, if one needs to change that much, maybe one needs to look at another "feature set"?

 

[bluto]

I own a G22, a G19 and a bunch of SIGs. The G19 is a recent purchase and a heck of a pistol. It would be my second choice for a 9mm to carry after my (also recently acquired) P239. With the addition of Hogue finger groove grips that pistol, the P239, is fast becoming my favorite 9mm. It's very soft shooting. fast handling, comes right back on target, and is really the most accurate 9mm I've ever shot. And it's a blast to shoot. Pure fun even though it's designed to be all business.

As for capacity? I live in California so 10 rds. is the limit anyway. BUT for those who worry about the extra rounds it should be noted that the magazines (8 rds.) are very slim, small and handy.

 

[Pimpstar00]

Think hard about the pistols intended use. The glock 19 holds twice the bullets as a 9mm 239 by the way. I have both brands, g19 and a 226st 9mm and like them both.

 

[RobertFBurnett]

Well, there are some people who own 16 SIGs

If you look around SIGforum long enough you'll find someone that owns 16 SIG 220s along with his other models.

Also this is a pretty tame debate, nothing like an old fashioned S&W vs Ruger .357 Revolver debate! Those get personal!

My Buck-0-5

RFB

 

[WayaX]

Trigger pull - The DAK system is a heavier pull and a longer pull than a GLOCK. For good reason though, it lacks the GLOCK trigger safety. The DAK trigger is much more smooth though. Both guns can have trigger work done to them to change the trigger to however you want. Changing a GLOCK trigger costs as little as $9 dollars (armorers tool + trigger spring) and takes about 10 minutes to do yourself. A Sig trigger job has to be done by Sig or a gunsmith and will cost you big $$.


I know what you mean about buying a gun for it's features though. I learned the hard way that buying a gun and then modifying it into a different gun is a bad way to go (unless you have much $$ and time). For me GLOCKs and Sigs happen to have what I like in a pistol (to a lesser extent, H&K, too). I've owned others, but in the end they sit in the safe until they're traded for a GLOCK or Sig.

What I really want is a metal framed GLOCK. I.E. tennifer treated metal frame pistol. The closest thing that comes to that is a racing frame put on a regular GLOCK, but that is essentially buying 2 guns and costs a ridiculous amount of money for what you get.

 

[10-Ring]

In my experience, I prefer the Glock over the SIG.

 

[American_Pit_Bull]

SIG.

Glocks do not point well for me.

 

[harrygunner]

Get the Sig.

I have a Sig 229. Out of the box accurate and reliability. Still that way after a decade and thousands of rounds down range. It is a well engineered tool.

A Glock is a utility. Looking down into the frame of a Glock is a scary thing. Looks like something someone built in a garage with a glue gun and pot metal.

I bought a Glock 29 because of its size and the 10mm caliber. I use it when I must travel by air. If an airline loses it, I won't be as upset as if a quality tool was lost.

If Sig made a 10mm, I would not have bought the Glock.

 

[DWARREN123]

I have GLOCK's so I say go with the GLCOK if it fits you. They are butt ugly utility guns but they work.

 

[1BLINDREF]

PhillyGlocker - I've never seen a guy post a pic with more than 3 Sigs in it since I've been visting forums. I've seen a pic with at least 30 Glocks in it, and I love the guy. He's my hero.

There are lots of Sig owners that have more than 3 Sigs, but quality guns come with a higher price and many of us are not able to afford a camera. I'm just lucky enough to have a friend that lets me borrow his

My collection (-1) is post #28 (sorry - just had to feed the troll!)
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=235258

 

[Harley Quinn]

I have an Astra A 80 that is a 45 cal 10 shot, made back in the 80's Good shooter for what it was designed do do. Not very big and carries 10 45 rounds.

http://www.gundirectory.com/more.asp?gid=20137&gun=Pistol

Some don't like the idea of the Magazine being released from the bottom (old euro style) but if you are comparing it to a revolver "6" shot and reloading, it is a lot better and it carries more rounds than the 1911 Pretty much of a winner I'd say.

It is similar to a Sig, not the same quality though.

 

[PhillyGlocker]

There are lots of Sig owners that have more than 3 Sigs, but quality guns come with a higher price and many of us are not able to afford a camera. I'm just lucky enough to have a friend that lets me borrow his

My collection (-1) is post #28 (sorry - just had to feed the troll!)
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=235258

And I thought only XD's are ugly. I do not find Sigs appealing at all. Yuck!

 

[DawgFvr]

hmmm...Ford vs Chevy thread again I see. I do not own either of these weapons...but enjoy reading all the egos. I note that those with over 1000 posts opt for the Glock whereas those under 200 posts are die hard Sig fans. Interesting observation...eh?

What would you use this weapon for? Defense? Range?

If it were close in self defense, I would ask:

1. Which is the lighter weapon.

2. Which has more 9mm capacity?

3. Which is more inexpensive?

Seems that the Glock 19 wins out in the self-defense category...eh?

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[1BLINDREF]

I note that those with over 1000 posts opt for the Glock whereas those under 200 posts are die hard Sig fans.

Not all die hard Sig fans are under 200 posts.
Some Glock fans (with Glock in their screen name) don't have 200 posts.
Not too sure where you are seeing that or what it has to do with anything.

 

[DawgFvr]

you are quite right..."Not all" one way or the other. I think that those with fewer posts are not quite as objective as those with more posts...just an observation. Seems like older/wiser heads see the value of the more inexpensive/lighter/more rounds in the Glock than the young bucks who see the better quality in the expensive/heavier/less rounds Sigs.

 

[Quack]

i've had a few Sig's (p225, p226, p228, p239) and even more Glocks. the only Sig's that i have left are P225's. i just got rid of my P226 for another G34.

 

[GLOOB]

Looks like there's a new flavor kool-aid in town. SIG-Berry, anyone?

Just one sip, and your SIG is more dependable, durable, accurate, and just plain smells better than the other stuff. You'll find you can't keep a GLOCK on the paper at 10 feet, no matter how you try. You'll also realize the SIG grip angle is superior... in fact you'll find the SIG grip angle is second only to the broom-handle Mauser. Increased wear? Why would a gun with more moving parts and loads of steel-to-steel/aluminum friction wear out faster?

Then there's the other flavor: Bling-Berry. Drink up, and you realize that you only get what you pay for. That makes SIGs 1.5 times as good as a GLOCK... which is great, if you can't afford an HK.

 

[1BLINDREF]

Seems like older/wiser heads see the value of the more inexpensive/lighter/more rounds in the Glock than the young bucks who see the better quality in the expensive/heavier/less rounds Sigs.

Thanks for the compliment - I haven't been called "young buck" for sometime now.
I don't consider Sigs as expensive and I'm not all that concerned with having less rounds.
I make up for less rounds by being able to hit my target.
I've never subscribed to the "spray and pray" method.

 

[DawgFvr]

Thanks for the compliment - I haven't been called "young buck" for sometime now.

So sorry...you see, you are not included in the "young buck" category as you have more than 1000 posts. That includes you in the "older/wiser" heads.

I make up for less rounds by being able to hit my target.

Wow...guess you should only be carrying a derringer then if you are such the superior shooter. Me...I'm a pretty good shot...but when comparing two weapons, I think the one that has the superior capacity gets a check mark in the plus column. We were comaparing the two weapons...right?

I don't consider Sigs as expensive

You don't consider Sigs as expensive as...what? That was not a complete thought. My point is that the Sig is far more expensive than a Glock

I've never subscribed to the "spray and pray" method.

And by inference, you think I do? Please...your moniker speaks volumes about the content of your posts.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Lol people are grasping at straws here trying to support their favorite shooting platform. Post count? hahahaha.