Good AR?

I've assembled a dozen ARs. There is REALLY something to be said about assembling your own AR, just like there is something to be said about building your own AK.
I always recommend assembling your own. A lot of people like to assemble their own lower and furniture and simply buy a high end upper from one of the aforementioned
companies with a great rep. Furniture is furniture IMHO and lowers are lowers to a large extent. Anderson, which in the AR hierarchy is considered a low end lower makes lowers for many of the most exclusive brands,
they are just custom roll marked so obviously Anderson makes good lowers, they just don't have the branding that a lot of people get stuck on.

If I was in your position, and I wanted to know more about my AR from the inside out, how it works, how it was put together, I would devote a few hundred bucks, buy a lower, quality LPK, buffer setup, handle, and furniture of
my choice, then I would buy a Daniels Defense or LMT/BCM upper and I'd be done. IMHO, the assembled upper and BCG are the most significant part of the AR, the chamber, barrel, gas system, etc. The tolerances on the upper are
far more important than the lower and that it is assembled and specified correctly is more important than the lower. The lower, objectively is more of a generic assemblage that just puts rounds into the chamber and provides
a handle and buffer tube assembly. If you have never done it, assembling ARs is addictive and very fun, it's like Legos or Barbies for men (or women, of course!), you can make it however you want, test it, customize it, put in a nicer trigger, better grip, controls.

Then again if you just want a solid, pre-assembled AR, and you definitely don't want to assemble, the recommendations here are all great, Colts, LMT, Daniels Defense, KAC, BCM, you're not going to go wrong with any of them, just flip a coin.
 
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I'm happy with my Bushmaster MOE M4, just swapped the trigger with a Geissele and I have very good results.
 
Good AR" is pretty much the definition of an oxymoron.
Ok your opinion is noted, but remember some of us could or even would say the same of any firearm you may like as well. So when we collectively decide to state the same opinion. Of your firearms, please be as gracious as we are in allowing you to state your opinion thus allowing us to state our opinion. BTW thank you for your insight.
 
He didn't say he wanted a HiPoint. He said 'basic, no frills,' which means to me no piston, no gamer rig, not a patrol rifle. In fact, he said...

I wasn't honestly suggesting a HiPoint rather a retort to your claim that they all do the same thing.

Now one must define what a "frill" is when it comes to AR's. Is a no frill a A2 stock with F post sight? or M4 Config? is a frill M-Lok vs. MOE vs. ____?

To me the "frills" come from the accessories one chooses. As a vast majority of all AR's come in the same basic configuration(s) with the biggest difference in quality of parts/components.

For example. My LaRue doesn't have more "frills" than my DD or my Colts. As they are all 16" rifles with full length hand-guards and adjustable stocks coupled with aftermarket sights.
 
Anything above about $800 for an AR is a waste of money IMO. You can spend more, but you are "just making the rubble bounce."
 
I bought a Stag as my first AR. After that, I've built my own. Up to 12 of them now.

I can tell you this from my personal first hand experience.

Don't fall for the "Brand name scam".

I've used PSA, Areo, Anderson, BCM, Colt and Giessele.

I deliberate spent ALL OUT, Spared no expense, full on insane, building the Giessele..just to see if the "Brand" stuff was so much better than PSA.

It's NOT! Not even a little. My cheapest build (also done deliberate to see how cheap I could build one) shoots sub MOA, with zero defects, zero misfires, zero malfunctions...than I put $340 bucks into.
You nailed it perfectly! I shoot regular matches and for fun I shoot a Mil Spec PSA AR15, A4 20 inch barrel with standard sights. Not even the slightest handicap out to 200 yards shooting my reloads. Yes, I have other high dollar AR's but what can be more satisfying than proving the "experts" wrong! :)

The Giessele "Brand snob" build set me back well into $3000. Is also shoots sub MOA...no defects, malfuntions...Yada Yada Yada.

It comes down to this...if it's mil spec, from a well know brand (other than Bear Creek...they are junk), it will just work. Even my Stag works just as well...and Brand snobs love bashing on Stag (for no justifiable reason in the least).

Is Daniel, KAC, Colt..really better?

NO, they are not. You pay for a stamp on the side, and maybe a few almost useless ergonomic "improvements"....

Here's a hint too...Anderson stuff is almost the cheapest stuff you can get...know who they supply to? COLT! So, there's that.

Next, I expect a whole lot of flak, telling me I'm wrong, but no facts to prove it.

A few things..and only a few, make a good AR better...and that's the barrel, bolt carrier group, and trigger. To a lesser extent, maybe an adjustable gas block. The rest is window dressing.

You nailed it perfectly! :)
I shoot regular matches with a PSA, AR15, A4 with standard sights. The only modification is a 3.5 # trigger. It easily bangs 8" steel out to 200 yards using my reloads! I only clean it at 200 rounds, and it never has caused a stoppage! It is very satisfying to compete against high dollar AR's with optics! And yes, I have other high dollar AR's too! :)
Some say it's the Indian not the arrow! :)
 
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His shotgun choice is better for home defense. It won't go across the street into another house. And under stress some turkey loads. Will increase ones chance of a hit.

Perpetuating myths much? This is all sorts of wrong. It has been proven time and again that 5.56 bullets penetrate fewer layers of drywall and common building materials than virtually all other popular self defense calibers, including most shotgun loads. Furthermore, you have to aim a shotgun, just like any other firearm. If not, you will miss your target just as easily.
 
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