sammoh
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Ok, I've got a beef and I'm going to rant a bit. I'd like to ask everyone though to freely post their opinions on whether what I did was right or wrong. I'll be better informed in the future.
So an old high school friend of mine came to visit me. Let's call her A. She brought along a new friend that she was hoping would go from just friend to something more than that. Let's call him B.
A is a long time gun owner and gun lover. A's stepfather is also a good friend of mine and the three of us go shooting regularly and also discuss 2a issues. B is a recent acquaintance (I'd met him when A and I went camping and she brought B along). Knowing A's choices in men, I figured B was accustomed to guns and familiar with them. B said he was and that he owned a couple of guns himself.
A and B came to my home after having been in town for an event that weekend. At my home, A invariably brought up guns and of course we started to speak about them. I was also just dying to show off a couple of my newest acquisitions. I pulled them out of the safe and came into the living room to show them off. I first opened the chamber of the autoloader 1911 clone I just got, dropped the mag and handed her both the empty gun and empty mag.
A knew enough to look at the gun, work the action but not dry fire and not insert the mag. She then handed it to B after having taken several minutes to examine the pistol. As she hands it to B just like I handed it to A, I ask him, "Please don't dry fire." He looks at me and nods then proceeds to insert the mag, fiddles with the gun and finds the slide release, forces the action close and then quickly squeezes the trigger. I was rather displeased at this and even more displeased to see the gun was pointed at my stomach at the time he squeezed the trigger. If there had been a round in the mag, I'd have been shot in the gut.
Displeased, I stated that I'd like my gun back and mentioned that I'd prefer if my guns were not dry fired. He proceeded to hand the gun to me, muzzle first with his finger on the trigger.
Next I handed a Bersa Thunder 380 to A, action open, mag out and empty. Same thing, this time again after I tell B not to dry fire, he does the same thing, and as I'd explained to them both that this gun was a DA/SA gun and it didn't need to be cocked to fire, he squeezed off four times on the trigger in DA. At that, I took the gun from his hands, didn't ask, just took. I had another gun, a S&W Model 29 that I'd gotten in trade but I wasn't going to hand that over to them. I just got up, placed them in my safe and locked it.
B started to tell me that was rude and that he wanted to see the revolver. He also stated that he'd never had anyone tell him how to handle a gun and he thought that was degrading.
I informed him that it was insulting to have him speak to me that way and that he was disrespectful when he dry fired MY guns when I asked him not to do so. It was even worse that he didn't follow proper etiquette in handling the guns and in handing them over. At that, I told him that while he was welcome in my home so long as he didn't cross me again, he would never touch any of my firearms again.
He became very angry and A tried to tell me that I shouldn't be so harsh on B. Shortly thereafter, B decided it was time to leave and since he was the driver, he got to decide. A seemed rather upset with me as did B. I wished them well and gave A a phone call later but I can see this will cause some drama for a bit. I don't doubt my friendship with A, its been through more than this and will survive but I'm just curious if I should have been more tactful? Keep in mind, if B were not with A, I'd have ejected him from my home forcefully after the first time he chose to ignore what I'd asked of him.
Comments, opinions, jeers etc?
Sam
So an old high school friend of mine came to visit me. Let's call her A. She brought along a new friend that she was hoping would go from just friend to something more than that. Let's call him B.
A is a long time gun owner and gun lover. A's stepfather is also a good friend of mine and the three of us go shooting regularly and also discuss 2a issues. B is a recent acquaintance (I'd met him when A and I went camping and she brought B along). Knowing A's choices in men, I figured B was accustomed to guns and familiar with them. B said he was and that he owned a couple of guns himself.
A and B came to my home after having been in town for an event that weekend. At my home, A invariably brought up guns and of course we started to speak about them. I was also just dying to show off a couple of my newest acquisitions. I pulled them out of the safe and came into the living room to show them off. I first opened the chamber of the autoloader 1911 clone I just got, dropped the mag and handed her both the empty gun and empty mag.
A knew enough to look at the gun, work the action but not dry fire and not insert the mag. She then handed it to B after having taken several minutes to examine the pistol. As she hands it to B just like I handed it to A, I ask him, "Please don't dry fire." He looks at me and nods then proceeds to insert the mag, fiddles with the gun and finds the slide release, forces the action close and then quickly squeezes the trigger. I was rather displeased at this and even more displeased to see the gun was pointed at my stomach at the time he squeezed the trigger. If there had been a round in the mag, I'd have been shot in the gut.
Displeased, I stated that I'd like my gun back and mentioned that I'd prefer if my guns were not dry fired. He proceeded to hand the gun to me, muzzle first with his finger on the trigger.
Next I handed a Bersa Thunder 380 to A, action open, mag out and empty. Same thing, this time again after I tell B not to dry fire, he does the same thing, and as I'd explained to them both that this gun was a DA/SA gun and it didn't need to be cocked to fire, he squeezed off four times on the trigger in DA. At that, I took the gun from his hands, didn't ask, just took. I had another gun, a S&W Model 29 that I'd gotten in trade but I wasn't going to hand that over to them. I just got up, placed them in my safe and locked it.
B started to tell me that was rude and that he wanted to see the revolver. He also stated that he'd never had anyone tell him how to handle a gun and he thought that was degrading.
I informed him that it was insulting to have him speak to me that way and that he was disrespectful when he dry fired MY guns when I asked him not to do so. It was even worse that he didn't follow proper etiquette in handling the guns and in handing them over. At that, I told him that while he was welcome in my home so long as he didn't cross me again, he would never touch any of my firearms again.
He became very angry and A tried to tell me that I shouldn't be so harsh on B. Shortly thereafter, B decided it was time to leave and since he was the driver, he got to decide. A seemed rather upset with me as did B. I wished them well and gave A a phone call later but I can see this will cause some drama for a bit. I don't doubt my friendship with A, its been through more than this and will survive but I'm just curious if I should have been more tactful? Keep in mind, if B were not with A, I'd have ejected him from my home forcefully after the first time he chose to ignore what I'd asked of him.
Comments, opinions, jeers etc?
Sam
