Gun owners as peacekeepers

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Tactical Training $1500
Rifle $1000
The cost of a beer to end a conflict, priceless.
 
WOW, Mall Ninja.........Far from it Chad... orge I can handle But mall ninja come on...even shrek,,

yah i agree loose the ear pro. but since if i knew i was going into a fight i would wear them

Nice shots oleg.
 
Good concept as usual, Oleg! IMO, more attention needs to be paid to the 55+ demo. Baby Boomers with disposable income are retiring in droves each day. These are people who've worked all their lives and are extremely relunctant to part with their "toys" at the hands of an armed criminal. The BB numbers are growing rapidly.

At this stage of life (say, 50+..the age I retired at) a person is more apt to get very serious about self protection because, let's face it, your physical ability to defend yourself has dropped considerably. And, as mentioned, the money and time is there to purchase firearms, take classes, install security systems.. generally position yourself to defeat the increasing number of scum bags out to take advantage of those "perceived" as easy targets.

Oh the look of surprise on the BG's face when the "mature" target turns out to be a nightmare of epic proportion!

People 20 - 50 need to start preparing Now to defend themselves in their later years. Same as saving your money to ensure you Can retire. You do not want to compromise those "golden years" of worry free travel, fun and frolic! Of course, those of us here know that already, but to the "undecided"..seeing the value of armed self defense when you are older is a very effective tool in getting them off the fence and onto the range.

Baby Boomers = $ = need to protect everything you've worked for from low life, thieving, smoking dog turds.
 
They both would reach the people who are similar to the subjects pictured.

#1 would reach the "new generation" middle class, many of whom are anti-weapon.

#2 would reach the pro-weapon people - sort of like preaching to the choir.

Just my opinion.



I think #1 is one of your best yet!!!

I believe the man in #1 is a lefty. He wears his watch on his right wrist, common for lefties.
 
I really like the first one, but I'd change the text a bit.

big at top: Peacekeepers
subtitle: to win a fight, avoid it!
medium-small (slightly larger than you have it): 1st paragraph and 1st sentence of 2nd paragraph
footer (medium-large): last sentence of 2nd paragraph

i'd also crop the 'grey space' to the left of the couple a bit for symmetry.
 
I believe the man in #1 is a lefty. He wears his watch on his right wrist, common for lefties.
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I'm right-handed and wear my watch on my right wrist. Is the left hand common for righties? I've never noticed.

For photographic angular symmetry, I'd say it'd be better if the grip of the pistol was facing the other way - ie crossdraw - but maybe the lack of cohesion there draws the eye better.
 
When you use the word "Peacekeepers", people think soldiers on official, sanctioned "Peacekeeping Missions"

When that word is next to a civilian guy who's decked out like a soldier, the connotation is "wanna-be soldier".

"Wanna-be soldier" plus "of society" with "won't give tickets etc" just screams "vigilante" not "peaceable citizen".

Ditch the tac gear or keep that version for "in the community" use. If you want an Ogre, a big guy in "normal" clothes with an EBR, and maybe a single mag kydex clip-on pouch, would get the "EBR holders are just like you and me" aspect across without the baggage.
 
I like your justification for using the guy with the AR. I also like how you brought the barrel down through the text.

Good job as always Oleg Volk
 
Personally, I would like to see these on bill boards across the country. They would go over like a fart in a whirlwind with the antis!
 
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Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers

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I would like to see all folks that hold a Concealed Handgun License refered to as a "Peacekeeper". We help maintain the peace. The name helps generate trust with the public instead of suspicion of lawlessness.
What do you think?

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers

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fireball wrote:
I would like to see all folks that hold a Concealed Handgun License refered to as a "Peacekeeper". We help maintain the peace. The name helps generate trust with the public instead of suspicion of lawlessness.
What do you think?

Fireball


Interesting and I see where you are coming from. However, I am NOT a peacekeeper. The primary purpose for my CHL is the protection of my family and myself.

I do not intervene in arguments between other people, disturbances, disorderly persons, etc, etc, etc.
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I understand that we're not cops, and shouldn't be looking to intervene. I think the point fireball was trying to make was the importance of semantics.

I admit to getting a little steamed reading a Houston Chronicle editorial yesterday that ranted about the VT shootings. It kept repeating the mantra that the only purpose of hand guns was to kill people, and therefore only police and military should be allowed to have them. I felt like asking if the police were like 007, with a "license to kill." Actually we know that they aren't for killing, they're for protection.

I think the next time I hear someone say that, I'll answer that a hand gun isn't a killing machine, it's a tool for "conflict resolution."


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I'm not really surprised the Houston Comical's position on Monday's incident...So I yawn rather profusely...

As for the originator of this thread, I'm in the boat with "Txi" on this one...

Priority One: myself and family...

Secondary Priority:

If the situation dictates, and I can reasonably assume deadly force is necessary to stop an attack, or an attack in progress, then yes, that would come into play, but only at that time...The odds of getting involved in something like that are pretty slim anyway...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:

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No peacekeeper here either. I'm leaving that to the professionals.

I signed up to protect me and mine. If everybody would do that, I think we would all be fine.

Dial 911, is for people who don't want to be bothered with taking care of themselves.

Sorry if I'm a little harsh today, but I've heard just a little too much whining recently(not here).................OE
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CHL = Law Abiding Citizen, exercising their rights. The term "peacekeeper" implies an assigned responsibility. No thanks.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:

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OverEasy wrote:


Dial 911, is for people who don't want to be bothered with taking care of themselves.


it's hard to defibrillate your self.
and you know, for a myriad of other issues that aren't resolved with blam blam blam
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

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Greetings--

I, also, do not think of myself as a "peacekeeper". That implies a responsibility, a duty if you will, that I am not willing to accept. My purpose for obtaining my CHL, carrying, and obtaining training is for the protection of myself and my family.

Perhaps if one wants to create a label, the term "deterrent" would be more accurate.

As I'm sure we all have, I question myself as to what would I do in a situation that could cause me to take action for the safety of those (non-family) around me. I would hope that my wits and training would cause me to react in a manner that would provide 1) for my safety, then 2) take action to stop the threat if possible without violating # 1 !

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

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Perhaps we should all aspire to be peace-makers (Jesus discussed this in the beattitutes) rather than peace-keepers.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:

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Along the lines of Venus' comment, I do aspire to be a peacemaker. However I really don't need my CHL for that. My CHL is for protecting my family and me. Contrary to the adage that violence is never the solution, in an evil world, violence is often the only solution to predatory violent behavior.

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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject:

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I'm just a deputy to my own defense.

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Scott Murray wrote:

I think the next time I hear someone say that, I'll answer that a hand gun isn't a killing machine, it's a tool for "conflict resolution."


Scott


No, a fireaarm is a tool to defend yourself from a deadly assault, not to resolve conflict.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject:

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As TXI said we need to remember that a gun is a tool, but more importantly that if you don't have a gun, you always have other tools available.





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Um, if you're going to subject us to an inline thread dump like that, please bother to give it a short header to explain what you are trying to say and EDIT THE DUMP INTO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE READABLE.
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When your preaching to the choir, either pic will do and more often than not, guys will like the mirror cop.

But since preaching to the choir doesn't get you more church members, the less fire and brimstorm pic of the couple will get the non converted at least looking into the door.

Once in and after a few sermons, you can lay the mirror cop on them.
 
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