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Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers
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I would like to see all folks that hold a Concealed Handgun License refered to as a "Peacekeeper". We help maintain the peace. The name helps generate trust with the public instead of suspicion of lawlessness.
What do you think?
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Refer to folks with CHL as Peacekeepers
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fireball wrote:
I would like to see all folks that hold a Concealed Handgun License refered to as a "Peacekeeper". We help maintain the peace. The name helps generate trust with the public instead of suspicion of lawlessness.
What do you think?
Fireball
Interesting and I see where you are coming from. However, I am NOT a peacekeeper. The primary purpose for my CHL is the protection of my family and myself.
I do not intervene in arguments between other people, disturbances, disorderly persons, etc, etc, etc.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:
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A CHL doesn't make me a cop.
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Scott Murray
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:
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I understand that we're not cops, and shouldn't be looking to intervene. I think the point fireball was trying to make was the importance of semantics.
I admit to getting a little steamed reading a Houston Chronicle editorial yesterday that ranted about the VT shootings. It kept repeating the mantra that the only purpose of hand guns was to kill people, and therefore only police and military should be allowed to have them. I felt like asking if the police were like 007, with a "license to kill." Actually we know that they aren't for killing, they're for protection.
I think the next time I hear someone say that, I'll answer that a hand gun isn't a killing machine, it's a tool for "conflict resolution."
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject:
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:
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I'm not really surprised the Houston Comical's position on Monday's incident...So I yawn rather profusely...
As for the originator of this thread, I'm in the boat with "Txi" on this one...
Priority One: myself and family...
Secondary Priority:
If the situation dictates, and I can reasonably assume deadly force is necessary to stop an attack, or an attack in progress, then yes, that would come into play, but only at that time...The odds of getting involved in something like that are pretty slim anyway...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:
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No peacekeeper here either. I'm leaving that to the professionals.
I signed up to protect me and mine. If everybody would do that, I think we would all be fine.
Dial 911, is for people who don't want to be bothered with taking care of themselves.
Sorry if I'm a little harsh today, but I've heard just a little too much whining recently(not here).................OE
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject:
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CHL = Law Abiding Citizen, exercising their rights. The term "peacekeeper" implies an assigned responsibility. No thanks.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:
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OverEasy wrote:
Dial 911, is for people who don't want to be bothered with taking care of themselves.
it's hard to defibrillate your self.
and you know, for a myriad of other issues that aren't resolved with blam blam blam
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:
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Greetings--
I, also, do not think of myself as a "peacekeeper". That implies a responsibility, a duty if you will, that I am not willing to accept. My purpose for obtaining my CHL, carrying, and obtaining training is for the protection of myself and my family.
Perhaps if one wants to create a label, the term "deterrent" would be more accurate.
As I'm sure we all have, I question myself as to what would I do in a situation that could cause me to take action for the safety of those (non-family) around me. I would hope that my wits and training would cause me to react in a manner that would provide 1) for my safety, then 2) take action to stop the threat if possible without violating # 1 !
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Perhaps we should all aspire to be peace-makers (Jesus discussed this in the beattitutes) rather than peace-keepers.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject:
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Along the lines of Venus' comment, I do aspire to be a peacemaker. However I really don't need my CHL for that. My CHL is for protecting my family and me. Contrary to the adage that violence is never the solution, in an evil world, violence is often the only solution to predatory violent behavior.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject:
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I'm just a deputy to my own defense.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:
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Scott Murray wrote:
I think the next time I hear someone say that, I'll answer that a hand gun isn't a killing machine, it's a tool for "conflict resolution."
Scott
No, a fireaarm is a tool to defend yourself from a deadly assault, not to resolve conflict.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject:
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As TXI said we need to remember that a gun is a tool, but more importantly that if you don't have a gun, you always have other tools available.
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