Gun show loophole?

[Deanimator]

But...no 2A supporter ever mentions this.

I see it mentioned all the time. In fact, I mention it all the time.

In fact, there's a current news story about a woman who bought a gun for a prohibited person who murdered a cop(?) with it. She got, if I recall, probation.

Here's the story: Probation for Straw Purchaser

I don't consider murders of cops as any more heinous than those of housewives or tree surgeons, but a lot of people do, and the fact that the government won't punish a straw purchase of a gun used to kill a cop is indicative of the craven dishonesty of the gun control cult, especially those in government.

I'm sure this incident has raised some eyebrows regarding the seriousness (or lack thereof) of the gun control cult about keeping guns out of the "wrong" hands. Of course truth be told, for THEM, the "wrong" hands are the hands of NON-criminals.

 

[CoalTrain49]

With 300 Million+ guns in the USA, the approach outlined above would take literally hundreds of years to confiscate all the guns.

I'm not talking about all guns. I'm talking about high cap mags and autoloaders. Obviously, from the recent AWB we just got rid of and almost got back the target will be those. For 10 years black rifles and high cap mags were illegal to sell. I know a guy who inherited a Glock 19 and the mags he has are the AWB limited capacity type.

The average citizen used to be able to buy a Thompson until NFA. How many do you see at the range these days? I've never seen one in use except in the military. It certainly didn't take 100 years to get rid of those. All that has to happen is AR's/AK's have to be put on a Title II list and that my friend will be the end of them just like the Thompson machine gun. Do you think that congress would never do that? In a short 81 years we have had NFA, GCA, Brady and a AWB.

I don't own an AR because of the likelihood of magazine or rifle type restrictions that I see coming. I don't want to wake up tomorrow to find that I can't sell it and if I want to keep it, it will cost me a mortgage payment or three.

They don't really need to be confiscated by the thousands in door to door searches.

 

[SuperNaut]

I'm not talking about all guns. I'm talking about high cap mags and autoloaders. Obviously, from the recent AWB we just got rid of and almost got back the target will be those. For 10 years black rifles and high cap mags were illegal to sell. I know a guy who inherited a Glock 19 and the mags he has are the AWB limited capacity type.

This was pre-Heller. Not going to happen now.

The average citizen used to be able to buy a Thompson until NFA. How many do you see at the range these days? I've never seen one in use except in the military. It certainly didn't take 100 years to get rid of those. All that has to happen is AR's/AK's have to be put on a Title II list and that my friend will be the end of them just like the Thompson machine gun. Do you think that congress would never do that? In a short 81 years we have had NFA, GCA, Brady and a AWB.

Thompsons weren't very common. EBR's are.

I don't own an AR because of the likelihood of magazine or rifle type restrictions that I see coming. I don't want to wake up tomorrow to find that I can't sell it and if I want to keep it, it will cost me a mortgage payment.

That's okay, the rest of us are buying extra. Adding hundreds more years of time to the confiscation effort

They don't really need to be confiscated by the thousands in door to door searches.

Yeah, they kinda do. We keep on winning in court, all this increased rhetoric isn't a sign of increased public support, it is a sign of the desperation of an increasingly marginalized minority.

 

[yugorpk]

I'm not talking about all guns. I'm talking about high cap mags and autoloaders. Obviously, from the recent AWB we just got rid of and almost got back the target will be those. For 10 years black rifles and high cap mags were illegal to sell. I know a guy who inherited a Glock 19 and the mags he has are the AWB limited capacity type.

The average citizen used to be able to buy a Thompson until NFA. How many do you see at the range these days? I've never seen one in use except in the military. It certainly didn't take 100 years to get rid of those. All that has to happen is AR's/AK's have to be put on a Title II list and that my friend will be the end of them just like the Thompson machine gun. Do you think that congress would never do that? In a short 81 years we have had NFA, GCA, Brady and a AWB.

I don't own an AR because of the likelihood of magazine or rifle type restrictions that I see coming. I don't want to wake up tomorrow to find that I can't sell it and if I want to keep it, it will cost me a mortgage payment or three.

They don't really need to be confiscated by the thousands in door to door searches.

YOU don't see Thompsons at ranges ( I do ) because they never were all that common. A Thompson SMG in the 30's cost over $200 which was the equivalent to a few months wages to the average buyer. Sure you could buy one in the hardware store if you had the equivalent of $5000 in 2015 dollars to blow on a toy . They are just investments now so you don't see them out in the wild much.

No one is going to confiscate guns. Not buying a semi auto rifle because you are afraid of confiscation is foolish. If anything the total lack of meaningful anti gun legislation in the last 10 years at the federal level is proof that the Democrats have conceded the fact that its political suicide to go after guns . Sure, they talk some smack every now and then but even they can't get real demonstrative legislation to the floor.

 

[CoalTrain49]

This was pre-Heller. Not going to happen now.

Watch this one. SC hasn't picked it up yet but they might. I wouldn't take a bet on the outcome if they do.

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/friedman-v-city-of-highland-park/

That's okay, the rest of us are buying extra

I'll put my money in ammo, your choice.

 

[jim in Anchorage]

Same thing for my FFL. He works out of his house doing transfers and selling guns (shipped from a distributor, he doesn't keep inventory on hand). The last time I visited him for a transfer on a gun purchased out of state I was the 36th transfer he completed that day. He changes $25 but $10 goes to the State of Oregon. 36 x $15 = $540. Not a bad day's work!



Yes, they go hand in hand. You cannot enforce background checks without keeping a record of the checks. I live in Oregon, the state has records of every gun I have purchased. No big deal.

You don't consider that a big deal? I find it interesting that folks on THR that live in states that require UBGC have grown to accept it as "OK." Thats how it works. Nibble at rights slowly, so no one gets alarmed.
Like the old frog story. Throw a frog in a pot of boiling water and it jumps out. Put a frog in a pot of cold water and turn the heat on till it boils. Frog never notices till it's cooked.

 

[jim in Anchorage]

I'm not talking about all guns. I'm talking about high cap mags and autoloaders. Obviously, from the recent AWB we just got rid of and almost got back the target will be those. For 10 years black rifles and high cap mags were illegal to sell. I know a guy who inherited a Glock 19 and the mags he has are the AWB limited capacity type.

The average citizen used to be able to buy a Thompson until NFA. How many do you see at the range these days? I've never seen one in use except in the military. It certainly didn't take 100 years to get rid of those. All that has to happen is AR's/AK's have to be put on a Title II list and that my friend will be the end of them just like the Thompson machine gun. Do you think that congress would never do that? In a short 81 years we have had NFA, GCA, Brady and a AWB.

I don't own an AR because of the likelihood of magazine or rifle type restrictions that I see coming. I don't want to wake up tomorrow to find that I can't sell it and if I want to keep it, it will cost me a mortgage payment or three.

They don't really need to be confiscated by the thousands in door to door searches.[/QUOTE]



No because you are playing right into their hands.

 

[CoalTrain49]

No because you are playing right into their hands.

How so?

 

[Robert]

After 7 pages we appear to be going in circles and talking past one another.