Gun Snobs????

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My name is Triphammer & I'm a recovering gun snob.
I've been a varmint hunter/reloader for several decades & would NEVER waste my time with anything as inaccurate & wasteful of brass as anyting self loading. Then I met a 1911. I began to change... then recent comments about "Black rifle in the prairie dog field" got me re-thinking the whole idea. If someone wants the put in the time & effort to wring that kind of accuracy from their chosen platform, my views shouldn't / don't matter to any but me.
 
That's funny, I was just reading Combat Handguns magazine and they mentioned that many people are becoming "gun snobs". They were reviewing the Kobra Patriot 45. They described it as people looking at less expensive, not necessarily cheap, guns as being inferior to the more expensive guns that are decked out with all of the tacticool accessories. They basically said that the important thing is that it works-reliable and accurate enough for defensive purposes. I agree to a certain extent. I believe that if you can afford a higher end gun for defense, you should do it, but if you can't, get what is reliable and you can shoot well. It is like with cars. A Yugo might work perfectly fine, but a Corvette it is going to give you much better performance. However, a Yugo is better than walking.
 
The snobs are defined by their "conspicuous consumption".....if they own the 1500 dollar pistols, and you don't use what they use.....you suck!
If my Glock is not as good as his Custom Super Duper Springfield Armory Whiz Bang.....etc....etc....
 
I have a sort of friend, who is a total 1911 snob. We went shooting at his Dad's farm yesterday. I brought 3 of my guns with me, My EAA Witness .45 fullsize, my Astra A-75, and my 4" DW Model 15-2 .357. He brought his Kimber .45, his high buck .40 1911, and his Python 357 (an early blued one).

He thinks no other semiauto handgun is worth buying. Either it's going to be innaccurate, "won't last", or it's just plain "junk". I don't like the grip shape/angle on a 1911, it doesn't fit my hand! According to my friend, it's "psychological", the 1911 grip is "perfection". A CZ type grip does feel right to me though. That's one of the reasons why I bought my .45 Witness, and not a Kimber/Ed Brown/SA/etc, etc for 4-5 times what the witness costs. It's funny to see his almost $2000 "fantastic weapon" hang up repeatedly when shooting the same ammo my "junk" Witness saws through without a hitch. His excuses range from, "I was limp wristing it", to, "It's not broken in yet!", to "It's the cheap ammo we are shooting!"

My Witness and his big buck Kimber 1911 were bought about the same time, and both have upwards of 1000 rounds through them as of yesterday. My gun has had zero misfires, F2Fs, or anything else, his Kimber rarely makes it though an entire magazine without some issue. The only problem my gun ever had was the mag had to be slammed in pretty hard, or it would pop out on the first shot when it was new. A dozen or so insertions and removals cured that problem easily. He calls my Astra A-75 "crap", but it will shoot everything I put in it, unlike his .40 1911 (Can't remember the name on it, but it was at least 5X the price I paid for the A-75, and it's 100% reliable, unlike ANY of his half dozen 1911s. ;)

As far as revolvers go, he thinks only a Korth, and a Colt Python are good enough. My Dan Wessons are "junk", but they never have any issues, are amazingly accurate, and can be repaired by myself, in seconds if a spring or something would break, unlike his Python, that would probably need a gunsmith to fix it. And heaven forbid he might nick it! :eek:

To me, if it's not 100% reliable, it's gone. He seems to keep them, no matter how unreliable they are, and brag about them! :rolleyes:
 
A "Gun Snob" is anyone who looks down their nose at your choice. It doesn't matter if it comes from the high end, or the low.

We usually think of it in terms of the guy (or girl I suppose) who had an expensive weapon of some sort, who puts down someone with an inexpensive gun, but I've seen it work the other way too.

The person with the inexpensive gun can look down his nose at the person "who paid too much for a gun that doesn't work any better than mine."
 
Snob's seem to have a "Cool by association" thing going on with their current weapon of choice. The only known cure is going to the range and let them see you put lots of lead on target out of the corner of their eye. That is if they are not blinded by the shine of their superweapon:D
 
I have a friend who is pretty good with a Hi Point. He is also blessed with lot's of family land to use it on.
 
I have noticed eight basic types of gun snob:
  1. The big bucks snob: "I guess you know what your life is worth. I'd prefer a Korth."
  2. The little bucks snob: "You could have bought a bucket-full of Tauruses for the price of that Korth."
  3. The caliber snob: ".38 Special +P, eh? How quaint. You really need a S&W .500 Magnum to do the job."
  4. The brand name snob: "If that junk floats your boat, go for it. I'd rather carry an H&K."
  5. The esthetics snob: "Glocks are ugly."
  6. The anti-esthetics snob: "My guns are TOOLS! I ain't got no use for those engraved sissy guns."
  7. The semi-auto snob: "You need a BHP with ten 30-round mags to stay alive."
  8. The revolver snob: "You can't shoot worth crap, can you? Six rounds should be enough."
 
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HammerBite: Perfect! You have said it all. I had to chuckle at that description/definition which will surely close this thread out. Now...if I can just remember this maxim before I begin any future postings...other than the rifle section, of course...cuz I just want everyone on here to know that God prefers M1 Garands...and don't you forget it! :neener:
 
The most dangerous snob is the one who thinks they should be able to tell everyone else what they do or do not need .

The small caliber snob who says 357's , 40's and 45's aren't needed for defense because the Police in Europe carry 32's and he hears they work just fine or American cops used 38's for a 100 years .

The big caliber snob who says no one needs 15-20 rounds of 9mm when they can get it done with 7-8 of 45's .

The hunting snob who sees no need for anyone to hunt big game with a handgun or a rifle caliber above X caliber like the 30-30 or 30-06 owners who sneer at guys who want to use a 300 magnum or a 45-70 .

The shotgun snobs who think their 2 shot over and unders are just fine for home defense so you shouldn't be allowed to own a combat shotgun like the Police or military use .

I have even read an article in the local news paper with the ultimate idiot of a snob . Guy had an AR15 he used in former target competition yet he ran his mouth to the tune of several paragraphs on how no one needed a full auto or 30 round magazines when he was asked questions on the subject of the AWB .

The Moron had as much a clue as the news reporter on what was actually in the AWB that would have deprived him of his precious AR15 , yet he was all for it .
 
Hammerbite nailed it.

There are low-buck and high-buck snobs. The guy with the High Point and the chip on his shoulder is just as bad as the guy with the Korth and a chip on his shoulder. McDonalds or a Filet Mignon, both can fill you up, beyond that everyone has preferences.

gp911
 
For fun, see if you can pick out who has posted on this thread that doesn't own an expensive gun. :)

Handgun snobs got nothing on shotgun snobs. That's where the action is.

John
 
I am noob to guns so take it as a discount. It is the purity snobs that irk me. I like to modify and improve my guns. I have an absurd talent for taking an inexpensive weapon and turning it into something expensive. BUT I end up with something I feel is better than what I started with. I am not talking collectibles. I took a 250$ Walther P1 hard chromed it and added nice walnut handles. It looks nice and will last forever. All I heard posting was how I ruined it? ***. It was milsurp not a picasso. Same thing with my SKS.

What is nice about my saigas is everyone expects you to modify them and are very helpful in doing so.

So I think my most irritating snob is the 'perfect as is' snob.
 
Rocinante

I know how you feel about the purist collector snobs. Some, but certainly not all, can be very self righteous and act like they should be the authority over someone elses property. I think they don't realize some of us don't give a damn about ruining the collector value of a $69 Mosin Nagant rifle. Buying common place military surplus isn't all about investment and collector value to some of us. Also, the history of a gun doesn't stop when a government sells off their surplus. Governments also have refinished and modified their property but god forbid that you should do the same and add your history to your property.


The purist self rightous collector, the you get what you pay for, and to a much lesser extent the plastic versus steel snobs I find the most irritating. Then there are the spelling and Clip/magazine snobs.
 
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